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by yellowrose of Texas on 30 March 2008 - 08:03
i HAVE FOUR VERY VERY VOCAL GSD AND THE SCREAMING IS LOUD AND VERY DEMANDING...WORKING OR IN KENNEL AND CANT GET ME TO COME TO THEM ,,,THE SCREAMING GETS LOUDER ,,ESPECIALLY WHEN WORKING ANOTHER DOG OR OTHER DOGS IN A PERIMETER OF THEIR SITE EITHER WORKING OR PLAYING...CANT SHUT THEM UP AND DONT TRY....i TOO , LIKE ABHAY LIVE FAR FROM THE EARS OF ANYONE TO BOTHER THEM....

by gsdfanatic1964 on 30 March 2008 - 09:03
I think that also shows a good ear for your dogs when you can tell whose vocals are whose and what they mean.
I only have two girls but, the one will only make a noise when something or someone is around and you will know if it's just a squirrel, something larger like a bear or, a person. The intensity changes with each. She is also the one who will whine for me as soon as she sees me. If this dog is barking, you can be sure something or someone is on her property. She is very quiet otherwise.
The other, I believe, will bark at her own shadow (just to hear herself) but still, I can tell if she's serious or not. She's just plain crazy anyway because as soon as she sees me, she starts throwing herself into a spin.

by Mindhunt on 30 March 2008 - 19:03
Abhay, beautiful female (does she want another boyfirend???? ).
I have one male who only barks when there is a very good reason, oh he will chirp when he wants attention, and very LOUD when doing protection, but generally, a quiet dog. I know when he barks, I better check. He chuffs quietly when there is something to be very careful about but wants my attention. I trust him implicitly to let me know what is going on.
My younger male is a vocal SOB, good grief, he yodels, barks, moans, groans, and makes every other sound under the sun. He is what we call a freak because he will chirp when I am about 15 minutes from home, moan at my son if he is about 4 hours away from a migraine, groans when he is getting comfortable or getting his belly scratched, but there is ALWAYS a reason, it just may take me a while to figure it out. We won't even talk about what he does when bad weather is about 6 hours out. My son taught him to say ma-ma and out, honest.
My female is also a noisy one. She grumbles (not growl) when she is not getting her way (as she sees it), vocal during protection & play, barks because the others are, and is generally easy to set off. She whines, chatters her teeth when in high drive and will make a weird little growl when content.
Those of you who have dogs from different countries, I have a question. My two noisiest are Czech and quiet one is German. My friends with Czech dogs say theirs are noisy too while those with German backgrounds aren't. Is this just a coincidence?????? Is one breed noisier than others?
by VKFGSD on 30 March 2008 - 20:03
Mindhunt - first of all - it is one breed- Czech, DDR, Hi-Lines, Working lines, white, black are just all styles that someone has developed and promoted. While I have see a strong genetic basis to yodelers and talkers it crosses all the various lines. It's more like a family trait.
The most serious dog I have had was also the quietest. When you needed a dog to protect you she was the one but didn't feel the need to constantly annouce it to the world. Some trainers and helpers consider an overly vocal dog to be "leaking drive".
Ahab just curious. " Wilma will do anything. I mean anything. Her ball and prey drive is beyond measure. Be it Swimming, Pulling, Retrieving, you name it for hours and hours, she will never stop. I have never worked her at any activity, where she wasn't screaming to continue. ... I had planned on putting Wilma through an intense conditioning program. I plan on putting her Shredded and Conditioned pic up on the board in August. Wilma will consume the best of beef and supps that include "Vertex" and "Waxy Maize".&n " Why not just give her a real job to do or if that's not possible instead of just "conditioning" her actually train and title her so she has a displacement for all that energy? The tree looks like it's been used a lot - there is a ring dug into the dirt around it. Doesn't she deserve better?

by Mindhunt on 30 March 2008 - 21:03
Thanks for the info VKFGSD. I still learning and welcome any additional info to add to my "tool box".
My male yodeler is not Schutzhund or K9 material, genetically poor bite (which I recently learned about, never knew there was such a thing), along with some other undesirable Schutzhund/K9 tempermental traits that may be due to a closed head injury from his first home (or not). He is great as a SAR dog, will go anywhere, find anything, and die to please me (hopefully I never prove that trainer claim), so that is what we train, SAR. My female got her BH title and I was told that she had great potential, but, I had to retire her due to not passing her OFAs (long story).
I agree with your quiet dog info. Loki is all business when it comes to working, he is my safety and security when my husband is at work and I trust his instincts implicitly. He doesn't screw around with vocalizing when it would get in the way of taking care of business.

by sueincc on 30 March 2008 - 21:03
My dog loves to sing when we are leaving airports. I don't know what it's all about, but when I pick him up at oversized baggage he thinks it's a good idea to serenade everyone as we leave at the top of his lungs, (all kinds of bizarre vocalizations, high pitched, low pitched and everything in between) I'm just glad he doesn't do it when we check in, or maybe they wouldn't let him fly.
It's the only time he does it.
by Abhay on 30 March 2008 - 21:03
VKFGSD, First off, my handle is Abhay, not Ahab. I believe you have my handle confused with the character in "Mobydick". If you read what I posted with Wilma's pic, you will see that I said she was on a "Holding" chain, cooling down. Now I ask you, does Wilma look like a dog that lives on a chain, with no doghouse?
I was inside blending her PWO Shake. My wife had just made a huge purchase of $15 on ebay for a Kodak Easyshare Camera. That was the first pic my wife took with her camera. We currently have over 30 dogs. In the last almost 7yrs we have lived here, there has been as many as 10 different dogs per day on that tree for very short intervals. If you look close, you can see there is a purple rope, Horse lead tied to the chain. If any dog was left alone on that tie out, for any amount of time the rope would not be in tact. That purple rope has been like that for years.
Out of any dogs we have, Wilma and Asko have the best of everything. They live in the house. They sleep in our bedroom with us. My wife dotes on them as if they are human children.
Before we aquired this land, my wife was very active in Schutzhund. We only lived around 40 minutes from a club. As the population grew around us, we needed to go more rural and really get away. We now live next to a Wildlife Preservation, and we have cattle, and crops of alfalfa, corn, wheat and melons. We still have young children at home. The closest Schutzhund club is hours away. What I do with my dogs pleases me. Since I aquired my own dogs, and since no one other than I, pays the feed bill, I could really care less what anyone else feels.
Many times my dogs can run free. A few days ago the planters arrived, and traffic is active for these little dirt roads. That combined with the frequency of trains makes me feel better about confining a dog, while I'm doing something else.

by sueincc on 30 March 2008 - 21:03
Now I know my eyes are getting bad, but I don't see any "ring of dirt". Abhay, I think GSDVKF was just joshing around! Anyway I've had quiet serious dogs and noisy serious dogs.
by Nicolesowner on 31 March 2008 - 04:03
Many people comment that our little (ok, 75 # of muscle and gristle) Nicole is such a pretty GSD; this proves how little most people know about working dogs, as she has the body of a pulling Malamute, and the coat of a champion schutzhund... anyway, I have digressed before I began on topic; Nicole talks, and I do not mean yips, barks, howls, growls, but TALKS with a more fluent vocabulary than Chewbacca. Generally purebred Malamutes are the only canines that ululate (see wikipedia on both ululation and Malamutes), but our little girl is more than overly verbal. She also views dogs that do nothing than bark as, um, rather stupid.
by Preston on 31 March 2008 - 07:03
NO, you sure talk like an expert on dog training. Are you a professional dog trainer, do you have a professional K9 dog business on the side besides your gov''t job which requires a security clearance? I'll bet you can be a real asset to this board and all those who post here, even ones that are short on dog training knowledge. But some of these folks, even though short and with napoleonic complexes, can be pretty reasonable when shown a better way.
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