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Ts, no it is not, but in many cases the successful attainment of the Sch degrees signifies a natutally protective, normal temperamented GSD with a strong desire to dominate his territory.  In most cases that adds up to a potent and sane home protector that will not hesitate to use his mouth when appropriate.  I think that 90% of the time a real very hard trained PPD is poor judgement for a family situation and will not fight any harder to protect his master than a good untrained GSD or a stable, sane Sch or IPO trained GSD.

I have worked many SCH dogs sold as PPD dogs and they were so locked in prey they would not bite a person unless running or acting like a money. I will repeat myself again a person that is going to mug you is going to come to you as passive as possible and if your dog was not trained to act 100% on command than he is going to stand there looking stupid. SCh dogs act on prey 99.9% of the time GAME/FUN for them. If a dog has not worked under pressures then he will release grip and tuck tail??? I guess it is enough explaining people really just don't understand PPD dogs until they are around them...

I don't see many SCH dogs doing this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMHRIOepdg

I have seen this guys web site as wel.l interesting stuff

http://www.haussimpkins.com/video4.html

http://www.haussimpkins.com/video11.html

http://www.haussimpkins.com/video3.html

http://haussimpkins.com/video5.html

ts, you must have worked some Sch dogs with very incorrect, whimp constitutions.  Some Sch dogs can get there by prey drive alone.  One must select a normally dominant, sound temperamented GSD first.  And then there are the gangster type dogs, some managable and some not.  Take Lenin Du Val Danzin, who was a brevet dog and was a high ranking V dog before he was sold and imported into the USA.  This dog was afraid of nothing and would never turn from a good hard fight.  He was insensitive to pain and fought harder if the "aggressor" became more violent.  I saw puppies out of him that looked like him and were rock solid, 100% stand up temperament.  These dogs were naturally dominant and would provide very strong family protection without training and without posing a threat.  When challenged or pushed one had better expect a hard fight.  Now if you understood Lenin's breeding you would understand why he was so tough and dominant.  He was out of Eros Luissenstrasse the youth sieger, one tough dog who would never back down from a good fight anytime, anywhere.  Prey drive doesn't stop an aggressor.  It's the dog's need to dominate his environment and win any direct chakllenge to his territory or family.  I just don't know why so many folks don't get this.

Some of the GSD I have seen that were highly "PPD" would serve best as perimeter dogs only.  They had lost any natural ability to select out good folks or children from bad folks.  Everybody was the enemy to be ripped into.  These dogs are not apprioriate for home pets. 

The toughest dog I ever have known of was a import blooded dog of seeing breeding that was totally fearless and sound in mind.  He was a legend in my town and known for toughness.  He could tell the difference between children, family and friends and "bad people".  There is no way he was going to bite a toddler that hit him with a toy.  He would just get up and move. If an adult male agaitator hit him, that was a different story.  Most folks want a GSD that is naturally, instinctively protective and dominant, totally devoted and loyal to his master and family, and a good judge of character, not some prey driven "snake brained" dog that has no powers of thinking or descrimination.

Preston

You are so much into having the Alpha  maybe that is why you have only seen dogs with control problems. I don't look for a major Alpha because I train the dog to understand what is a threat and what is not a threat.. Control is upmost important with a PPD if you do not have obedience and control then you only have a dog that bites...

ts, a good dog may be able to ascertain a threat that you cannot.  I want a dog that will instinctively protect when appropriate and make a move even without a command from me, if necessary.  If you are a really great trainer you may be able to train sound dogs to turn on or off by voice command.  However in my experience most folks I knew who tried to do this (and some of them were self proclaimed training experts) ended up confounding and confusing the dog, and harming his natural instincts, as well as creating undue liability.  In my view unless the trainer is exceptionally good, and the dog exceptionally sound, PPD is usually a mistake and in most cases not appropriate for the average pet owner that wants a family dog that will protect without being an undue liability hazard.  If you can do this and end up with a sane, calm, sound PPD that is not a hazard, then you have achieved something.  Would most folks be willing to pay the cost of such training?

I guess one person I would trust in training a PPD dog for me would be Carl Morgan of Fokwulf Kennels.  I wonder what he would have to say on this subject.

Here is a video on a 7 mo old mal/GSD mix.  I know nothing about the trainer, but he seems to be doing a good job and the dog, although not my choice of a pet, seems very sound.  The dog is not a knock, knock-out man-stopper, however.  But still young, may be able to do the job without being a hazard to the rest of the family due to the apparent soundness.  I just prefer a confident, sound, GSD that wants to dominate his territory and has great courage, unwilling to let any enemy take over or win. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaCv4Njcnk

How about just buying a gun? A gun is much cheaper, doesn't crap, doesn't eat and you can fit it in your pocket.