My post on the Pet-Law forum - Page 2

Good morning,

I dont feel as good as I thought I would but I'm better than I was .     

Louise, I do not think you are an alarmist.   Your right about things getting worst.  But its everywhere.  There are bigger fish to fry I'm sorry to say.   Look at whats going on all around us, homeland security? What a joke!!!  Our elected officials, is this the best we can do?   I think I gave up along time ago.  I moved to the woods to escape most of it and found out the grass is never greener over the hill.  Like I said if someone wants to organize I will join.   Its doesnt take much money to get the ball rolling, just alot of time and effort on someones part.   Most people wont get off their arse until they have a big bite mark on it.   I wish this country could break out of the two party good ole boys system we have now and come up with some fresh leadership.  It aint gonna happen.   Big money rules the earth now, they have no particular allegence to any country, only more money.  It doesnt matter where you are from, its global and many are suffering right now.  One day people will wake up and say enough!!  Its already to late for that I think.  Why do you think someone would strap on explosives and give up they're life.  Its not just some brain washed extremist thing, people are desparate with no other means of fighting back.

Why do you think someone goes into a mall with a rifle, people have no hope, see no future.  Its all our faults.  Blame it on the meds?  No!  Blame it on us for letting things get this bad.   I dont know how to motivate people to get involved anymore.

This is to everyone, incuding myself I guess.  Do something!!  Vote out the rats that have sold us out, demand that you be heard.  Change these ignorant laws that allow the wealthiest to control policy.  Try doing it with your dollars, dont be silent while others pay the price. Are we gonna do anything about our earth, it needs help too.  We dont have a replacement ya know.

Louise its not just some crappy animal rights thing, its everything.     I am overwelmed and would love to see someone else express my concerns.  Does anyone else see what I see?   Or do you think I should be put in a home?

Louise, show me an organization I can be a part of and I'm your's.

I'm done now, someone turn me.  Sorry to go so far off topic.

SSDD

Consider PetPAC: http://www.petpac.net/

Big money need not necessarily win every battle. For example, in my little town, a proposed big racetrack called Dixon Downs (owned by Frank Stronach's Magna Entertainiment  http://www.magnaent.com/) was considered a done deal--approved by all of the local politicians. To learn more, do a Google search for any of these entities. Even a former mayor of the city was on the payroll of the Dixon Downs office.

But, WAIT a minute: after several years, a group of concerned citizens finally banded together and petitioned the city council for a special election in which all 4 measures regarding the racetrack were defeated.

So, the megalomaniac Frank Stronach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Stronach) and his big money packed up and left town--the property is for sale. This guy is a billionaire--involved in politics, an international automotive parts company, entertainment, and the sports industry all over the globe. I did a double-take when I visited Austria a few years ago and saw a Magna racetrack right outside Vienna.

So, yes, when citizens with common goals concentrate their efforts, they can have measures reversed, have special elections, have politicians recalled, etc. The citizens of Los Angeles can take legal action to have the recent MSN measure reversed. Lloyd Levine is termed out of office the end of 2008. Hopefully, the citizens of California will be instumental in defeating Proposition 1634 when it is reintroduced later this spring.

By contributing to PetPAC, you will not only be helping dog owners/breeders in California--you will be helping yourselves--wherever you may live.

Sigh.........................   You missed my point.

Ok, I'll give it a look.

SSDD

My present situation aside, it riles me to think that my, and many others, dreams can be invariably altered by a bunch of  flagrant zealots who feel that their view is 'right-er' than anyone elses. Small minded control freaks, who achieve no other satisfaction in life, and who don't have enough upstairs to cut it in the real world, have found another venue in which they can reek their special kind of havoc. The particular satisfaction they crave is to invade others privacy and tell them how wrong their thinking is, how their way of life is wrong, and how the way of doing things prescribed by the 'invaders' is the only way of doing things. And local governments have been the fostering ground for these people, a place where nosey busybodies can get their jollies screwing up and pushing around their neighbors, and get paid for it! Sorry for the rant...we just had a lovley time with a local inspector because of our cars! We had to go to court, be subjected to multiple inspections, the guy took pictures of our property, from ON our property, without our permission, which we were not allowed to see; all because HE felt we had too many cars. He had to trespass onto our property to see that the cars were legal, all but one, a trailer we used for storage....but that didn't matter, he was 'doing his duty'. My ass! He was snooping! God only knows what's on those pictures! We hired a litagator, and suddenly everything was cool, "just pay the court costs, and you'll be in compliance." I shudder to think what could have happened had my bitch had her puppies then! What happened to America the Free?  jackie harris

Kalibeck, it is important for you to know that those running the peta type operations are not zealots at all.  This is a business operation to them and in my view appears involves use of mind kontrol methods (perhaps similar to those exposed in the MKUltra documents in a Congressional hearing) for the recruiting of susceptible worker bees who can be easily conditioned to be "true believers".  These leaders don't give a rip about animals or people, at all.  That's right, not at all.  Most of their worker bees are god but misguided "controlled" folks, in my view.

Those pulling the strings "perhaps" do not even live in the USA, have unlimited financial backing from certain international financial entities who are willing to pay for various social control methods to take away all human rights, degrade the populace to worker bee status, and make it easy to ship to a world wide fascist/socialist/communist type state with no individual freedon.  A world where only large corporate financial entities can buy the legislation they want and only the super rich on the inside can purchase freedom from politicians who are for sale every day.  As Mussolini (who coined the term fascism) stated, fascism is the merger of the corporation with the state.

Think about it.  This is what the so called "animal rights" movement leaders are likely trying to accomplish.  Ever since these same groups murdered JFK, they have been buying up all the politicians, and those not for sale are either marginalized or dealt with in another way.  This animal rights conflict is really a smoke screen for the "Custer's last stand" of freedon loving folks who believe that our Constitution and Bill of Rights is still valid and is the law of the land, even if our treasonous leaders don't follow what they swore to uphold.  I say route them out by unelecting these folks. I agree it's a good idea to support petpac.  Is the AKC doing anything to combat this freedom robing fanaticism?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9PulYpjGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqJvhmD5Yg  (I apologize for the occasional profanity but I didn't know how to bleep it)

If you have ever wondered how our policians are controlled, that is induced to betray the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights and serve special interests even when it is not about payoffs and monetary gifts, here is a banned video that explains how 113 such congressmen with a "known" problem were controlled in the 1980 and early 1990's.  Supposedly there are even more now with this "problem".  You were never supposed to be allowed to see this video.  This will give you an ideo of what kind of power structure freedom loving pet enthusiasts are fighting when they try to preserve their freedom to practice their dog sport and hobby.  This posting is expected to have a short half life.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=866739408240639313

I have copied and pasted this entire thread to MS Word.

Today, I was doing my once-a-week-volunteer work at the Davis Food Coop ( a natural food store where I have "worked" for nearly 10 years). Outside the store, were a couple of women getting signatures on a petition supporting the humane treatment for farm animals.

I asked one woman if she was affiliated with PETA. She answered "no" but that the purpose of the petition was supported by HSUS. Big deal--what difference does that make? Upon seeing that the woman wore a badge identifying her as a veterinarian, I asked if she favored California AB 1634. She replied, "Absolutely!" At this juncture, I butted out, said that I could not support any efforts of a "terrorist organization", and walked to my car. There was no sense in my having a conversation with a fanatic. 

Preston, you got it bad .......

I'd chill....   seriously.

Your right , things are screwed up............... but I dont think you have any idea what your ranting about in public on the internet world wide.

NSDD ......  what a suprise..

So you say, so you think, Two moons.  This post should be my last one in this topic. I dedicate it to you because you don't understand that the powers that be which are taking our rights away are organized beyond our national boundaries and are behind the animals rights movement, the green revolution, mother earth movement, global warming movement, etc.  Sorry but it's the same bunch exposed in the 3 interviews below.   Please no-one else listen to this but Two Moons.  Everything I discussed can be or has been well substantiated. If you really want it proved, it can be.  PM me and I'll give you the references.

http://www.solutionassoc.com/TruthFire/blog/2005/04/rusty-nelson-interview-this-one-may-be.html