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by Ullie'sMom on 21 January 2008 - 02:01

Thank You So Much.

They are VERY LOVED. And I appreciate You welcoming Me.

I was a bit taken back by the Assault .


by bgstout on 21 January 2008 - 02:01

I noticed on the dam's pedigree she is a daughter of Alabama K9 's top stud Tinman vom Alk.  He is the second most used stud next to Zidane.

Is it possible to get kkl without titles?  I noticed Tinman is.  Also it is good to see he is bred to a VA female from Czech and American cross.


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 21 January 2008 - 02:01

Hi April,

I said my dog was x-rayed 3 times by 3 different vets, and meant to say the OFA
sent them back as being mildly affected, where as the 3 different vets said they
looked good.

So actually your dog that got boarderline, was better than mine that got mild.

To everyone that looks at the database, what has happened to helping out beginners,

has everyone had a relapse in memory, and have forgotten about the first dog that you have
owned or bred, this person doesn't seem as reckless as others I've seen posting ads.........


by Ullie'sMom on 21 January 2008 - 02:01

Again thank You.

I was ready to delete My Pups, and leave here.

I am an honest person who loves My Dogs Very Much. In Fact the main reason for this litter is to keep One Of Cherokee's Sons,  I was hoping some would be Blac and Red like he...

But Iris Must have VERY STRONG GENES, As all Pups turned out sable.

Now I want to ask if this is normal, but I don't want to be attacked again!!


by Ullie'sMom on 21 January 2008 - 02:01

Thank You so much for saying Nice things about Iris!

She is a Wonderfu Girl, Very Very Intelligent. She protects My 5 year old like He is Hers.

I couldn't have asked for a Better Girl! And that I say Full heartedly.


weberhaus

by weberhaus on 21 January 2008 - 03:01

There are a lot of people who do not x-ray there dogs, this is a sad fact. I do not think that you should remove your ad. Do not misunderstand what is am trying to say.  I would incurrage  this as i do not wish to make you unwelcome. So please take what i have to say as info for learning. Boarderline is not a passing thing and perlimbs are just that. Prelimbs. I have had many vets look at x-rays who have said oh yah they look great only to have OFA say no they are not ok and dont pass. I would re -xray a dog with boarderline hips once and then call it a day. Anything less mild or worse should be fixed no breeding. I hope that before you breed  your female again that you will OFA her. I hope your puppies do not have hip problems. I would not sell these puppies with full Reg. I would sugest they be on limited untile they pass OFA at least then you can turn it over if you want to. I also would say that your price is a bit hips considering the pedigree of the male and his OFA status, plus your female not haveing any done. Who ever put the VA in front of that dogs name must be mistaken as that is only given at a sieger show and would not go to a sable dog.

The picture of the pup you showed does not look sable from his face. Maybe you could post a side picture of the pups.

Being  that your dogs are not titles it might be hard to find a working home for them.

I welcome you to this site, I also would like for you to ask questions and learn more and maybe this will help you if you decide to breed again... Also as you asked. The sable gene is dominat over then the black and tan gene. So had you asked before thi breeding was done we would have said a litter of sable is what you would get and maybe one black and tan but more likly a bi color.

Also be careful that if you are going to keep a pup dont let there be any inbreedings because that is yucky and the worst thing that can happen.

 


weberhaus

by weberhaus on 21 January 2008 - 03:01

For those who asked for a V rated sable here is one

V Jasmin vom Austland owned by chis Orkies

 

 


weberhaus

by weberhaus on 21 January 2008 - 03:01

http://vomwind.com/FEMALES.html

here is my other friend and the V rated sable


Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 21 January 2008 - 03:01

Shelley has a V rated sable as well.

 

Kathy


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 21 January 2008 - 03:01

Yes, Weberhaus you are very right...Thanks for explaining to her...We are not being mean   We all spend hundreds of dollars with out germans ,getting them   trained,   OFA,  and  tested before we breed...and we cant always get the price you are asking....That is what chaps our grits here.....we are all about   stopping HD...Just because 5 vets say your dogs hips are good,,,you can resubmit and that what all of us do...it does cost money......and the food is another factor    you have to beef those puppies up so they have a super start   because they have the   doom already to  all pass and have the dreaded HD<,,,,We want dogs out in homes that dont cost  their owners  thousands of dollars and give the breed a bad name    stay around a while and listen to the sick dogs and the number of  gsd that havae HD...it is not the end of the world.....Yes , he may not hurt  but he passed it on....and we have a hard time educating people  before they do the breedin.g,,,,

We are glad you came on here and ask questions....you will get educated,,,but dont get your feelings hurt........you are new to breeding   ..THAT IS WHY   WEBERHAUS SAID TO LIMITED ALL THE PUPS REGISTRATION.... wHEN THE OWNER PROVES TO YOU THAT HIS PUP HAS OFA FAIR OR BETTER ,,YOU CAN REVERSE THE  AKC LIMITING....THIS IS JUST GOOD BREEDING  TACTICS...THAT ALL TRY TO DO....NO ONE SAID YU HAD TO HAVE A TITLE     JUST DONT BREED PETS THAT HAVE   BAD HIPS .....OFA  DOES KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.....AND THEY TOLD YOU TO REDO HIS HIPS AT 24 MOS....NO NEED TO DO THEM BEFORE THEN...IF YOU HAVE JUST A PET...BUT TO BREED....YES....

 






 


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