Blunt Honesty PLEASE? - Page 2

This male is mostly Canto and Quanto Wienerau lines. Very common in most show line pedigrees these days. The line breeding is not correct as Oli lists it. He is line bred

5,4 - 4........................................... in VA7 Fedor von Arminius
4 - 4............................................. in VA1 Jeck vom Noricum
5 - 5............................................. in V Quana von Arminius

Other than his line breeding he is not what is considered a very popular breeding. The Godinghofer Weg kennel has been breeding their own lines for a while and not chase after popular this or that.
How this dog was brought up will greatly influence drive. Its not all genetic. Can't be fluent in Spanish if you ' ve never been exposed to it, even if your parents are native spanish speakers.
The photo and therefore the colours are washed out because it is overexposed and taken most likely in the spring where the light is not ideal for dog pix. If that dog was turned around to face the sun, rather than have the sun shine into his coat, his black content would look different in the photo. Better yet, if the dog was photographed when the sun was setting or had just disappeared or on an overcast day.
With a proper stack the dog will look very different too.
Only part of the kennel name has been used. The kennel name is only protected in its entirety, not parts of it. They say immitation is the greatest form of flattery... So let them flatter these kennels. In Germany people are too proud to be a copycat. Unless one is part of a team, then a partner kennel may name itself vom Team X if they have been working with that kennel vom X for a while. Usually a new breeder wants his future success to stand on its own though, not be overshadowed by that other kennel for eternity.
And finally - they don't all have to be show stoppers or top competitors. Dogs have litters for a reason. Only one can be alpha, be the best, be the strongest, not a whole litter. Actually it is usually THE one of the sum of all the litters. By natures design there cannot be an alpha in every litter because that would be too disruptive for the pack.  This male was bought as a pet and looks like he would fulfill that purpose nicely. He looks like a nice middle of the run dog. No extreme on either side. If presented a bit better he would certainly paint a different picture. As long as he makes his owner happy, that is all that matters.

Well, to tell the truth he looks a lot better than Blitz for whom I paid 1K.

Malloy:  Did this dog come from a kennel in Texas?   I notice its bred out of Nick.....??? Motherline side

malloy,

Is your friend planning on reselling the dog? The value of the dog all depends on the buyer, since their the ones that's going to be buying the dog. You can charge $1500 for this dog and maybe you'll get lucky to have someone willing to pay that much for a pet quality dog.

Some people are willing to spend top dollars for that“top” BSZS dog while others think is a total waste of money. I personally would not pay top dollars for a VA dog unless if the dog can work and work very good! When I see Muliple photos of a VA dog doing bite work at BSZS and see such terrible grips.. that dog is worth little to me, I feel a dog with poor and dreadful grips have no business being VA. I would rather spend top dollars on a V dog that has hard crushing grips then a VA dog that has 1 canine on the sleeve.

I believe a typical BSZS VA dog goes around 150,000 + dollars if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't spend that much unless if the dog can crap out gold or can compete in WUSV level Schutzhund.