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by eichenluft on 23 November 2007 - 16:11
Thanks Jeff and Blitzen - yes I have been thinking of re-taking the 2 year old's x-rays because positioning can definately make the difference between two ratings - and excellent would be a very good thing if there is a chance to get it :). The pup - my plan was to wait until she is closer to a year then re-xray in hopes that the laxity was normal and will tighten up. I too am concerned with the amount of luxation on the left hip, but want to think there is at least a chance it may be due to her age, or possibly she was near a heat cycle when taken, or both. Thanks for the input, very much appreciated.
molly
by eichenluft on 23 November 2007 - 17:11
Thanks also Bobo-O, I hadn't seen your post until looking back just now. I think you and I are on the same page. Thanks very much.
molly
by eichenluft on 23 November 2007 - 17:11
excuse me that was a finger-slip I did not mean to call you Bobo.
molly
by Blitzen on 23 November 2007 - 17:11
Your plans make sense to me, Molly. An excellent is always good since so few GSD's ever obtain that rating. In another 6 months there will be some noticable remodeling in that pup's hips if she truly is dysplastic.

by Bob-O on 23 November 2007 - 17:11
Molly, it's okay! Just refrain from calling me Bozo-O and we'll be cool!
Best Regards,
Bob-O
by B.Andersen on 24 November 2007 - 01:11
I would re take the young dog at a year. Too young for me to call. Both are xrays a little crooked. Second dog looks good to me.
by olskoolgsds on 24 November 2007 - 02:11
Molly,
Not an x-ray garu but " I am considering having him re-done, any opinions "
By all means I would have them re-done. Once they are registered with OFA you are stuck with what you get. He looked good but not the best positioning so whats to lose? Good luck.
by eichenluft on 24 November 2007 - 04:11
Thanks everyone - I contacted my vet who was kind enough to respond to my inquiry on his holiday! Here is what he said. I will be taking the 2 year old back for re-do on his x-rays to give him the chance to be Excellent if he can be. The pup I will wait 6 months or so for her repeat, not because they were terribly crooked but because of the laxity which possibly could tighten as she ages. I really appreciate everyone's nice and informative posts here. It's remained a good informative thread with no bashing - I appreciate that.
Molly, I’d be happy to re-xray though I beg to differ on the positioning opinion. The Patellas are square over the patellar grooves and the obterator foramen are very similar in size. These are the 2 criteria ofa looks for and would reject films that are not qualified however I understand the folklore that builds up around such things. I also understand that the veterinarians who read these film are human and can be influenced by some of the features your friend points out and will not dispute that it could influence the rating. I may go ahead and put him out a bit deeper so we can get the positioning as ideal as possible. Dr. John

by SchHBabe on 24 November 2007 - 04:11
Molly, have you considered PennHIP method? Xrays taken from 3 different positions, and results quantified by measurement vs. the human eyeball. What's not to love?
Yvette
by eichenluft on 24 November 2007 - 04:11
I'm not a fan of Penn Hip. Don't like my dogs hips being levered out of their sockets. Laxity in young pups can be normal - if it's not normal then later x-rays will show how normal the younger laxity was or was not. I trust my own eye in looking at OFA-type x-rays, and normally the OFA rating is easily predictable from what I can see for myself. Levering the hips out of the sockets and comparing them to a small database of other dogs of the same breed isn't my personal idea of reliable hip rating. If I had the money I may consider doing both and comparing - but I don't have the funds to play around with that. So for now I'll stick to OFA.
molly
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