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by 1doggie2 on 13 November 2007 - 21:11
i would not give up, we had one dog my husband thought useless as far as protection. Until one day the dog thought he was going to hit me with a cabinet door my kids broke. He was shaking it over his head and yelling at me. I can only laugh now, he never did call that dog useless again!
It also could be that the people coming into your yard, he has not preceived any of them as a threat. he could just be smarter than you thnk or are giving him credit for.

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 14 November 2007 - 02:11
1doggie- VERY good point "
"It also could be that the people coming into your yard, he has not preceived any of them as a threat. he could just be smarter than you thnk or are giving him credit for."
He may just be very stable and confident?? To say he doesn't "have it" would be an unfair assumption since the dog has never been involved in any type of training or seen a threat. So right now he sees everyone as a "friend" who's coming to play and he is more than happy to do so. Does he bark at the door when someone comes?
My dogs honestly aren't barkers when outside. I mean they don't bark at just anything or anyone. If the neighbor is cutting grass or trimming trees outside the fence they don't bark- why should they there is not a threat right? If someone comes to the door they will bark to alert me that someone is approaching. If I'm walking my dog and a neighbor comes over to chat my dogs will not start barking but instead become very focussed on the person and watch their movements and body. If you are not showing a reason for them to get excited they won't. This isn't a sign of a "weak dog" it's a sign of a good dog that knows the difference between threat and non threat.
Good friends of mine have this beautiful show line male, he's a pet has nothing but OB training on him, no titles just good manners. His size alone in intimidating to anyone that sees him and does not know him. For the longest time he was the way you describe your dog until he hit around 18-20 months old he discovered he has a "voice" .lol Would he ever bite anyone?? NEVER, I'd bet my bank account on it BUT they did not buy him for this purpose but just to love and enjoy, maybe to bluff someone off that might think about breaking into their house, not for any other reason. His name is Charlie...and he now barks at strangers but from a distance as he is really not as cocky as his size would make you think he'd be. If I pull up to their house he will bark until he sees me approach and say "hey Charlie, how's it going buddy"....then the tail goes wagging and I could walk right in their house without hearing another word out of him. I know he's not gonna bite but the people that don't know the dog, owners or house don't know that. So that's good enough for them and unless you have a real need for a more serious dog I'd be happy with your boys disposition at this point. Give him a few more months and he just might surprise you. Also if you want to raise his suspicion level a bit don't let everyone and anyone approach him, your yard or property and he will eventually (hopefully) discover that maybe not everyone that walks in uninvited is ok to be there.
by olskoolgsds on 14 November 2007 - 05:11
Adel,
I have alot more questions then answers. These questions are so hard to answer because I don't know this dog, his bloodlines, his temperment ( any fear etc.) where your house is located in relation to the public, type of fence you have, how many people come by etc.
Generally speaking it is not hard to encourage a GSD to at least alert to people coming to your house, especially at night.
Any one that knows a little about arousing the dogs suspicion should be able to help you, with your encouragement to the dog to let him know you are pleased with his response.
I have not seen many dogs that cannot at least be taught to have some mistrust of strangers coming to their house and alert. This is not the hard part. The hard part is deciding IF this is what you want, what can your dog handle, ( will you open a can of worms) will your neighbors be upset cause your dog is barking at everything that comes by your house.
At this point one can only speak in generalities without knowing your whole situation.
If you know how to do this email thing on this site feel free to email me and I would be happy to discuss this in detail with you. If I had to put money down on what you should do based on the little info provided I would say you should have no problem getting a little more home security warning from him. He just needs to know what he is supposed to do and what you want him to do. Good luck email me if you can if you like.
by olskoolgsds on 14 November 2007 - 05:11
Adel,
Sorry, did not read your second post. Show lines or not, he should be fine for what you have expressed. For what you want out of your dog you do not need a training center. A fourteen month old male GSD show lines or not is capable of showing some property security. I have to say he is not a baby and what you are asking for is reasonable. He just needs to know what you want. If you insist on paying for training have them come to your house. My hope for you would be that you can find someone that knows what they are doing to help you as it is not rocket science.

by yellowrose of Texas on 14 November 2007 - 07:11
All you have to do is get a couple of male friends to come unannounced to your home ...Dont knowif yu have a locked gate or access to house....either get them to rattle gate ,,alerty with a word you chose and use the same word all the time....alert dog and when he sees the intruder,,,havae the intruder bang on gate and when dog barks at thim have him run off....do this several times at gate , then advance to your front door and then the back door......when dog barks have man or woman run off....
That done a few times every week for a month or so will imprint him to the bark and intruder disappears....if you want more email olskoolgsd...I havae many synerios I use , but mine are working lines.....I have a showline boy that did respond to that , as I called him my dumbo dog he never wanted to alert or bark at anybody or anything...hes been crated in a huge wire one, on the front porch for three months to imprint to him , front yard is yours watch everything here and going by... He has the whole courtyard every morning and evening all for his protection ...it is a small area...and he has done better....He actually is one big baby , plays and loves and wont get too serious about anything that is called work...hes a Timo de la Serena ggrson and has Arminius in front of that...
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