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Thanks shelley :)

As I look again, I can almost guarantee the white will go away. Nice looking pup. Love the expression and the markings.

Good luck with him.

SS

Talking about WHITE patches... i heard that it prevented Quax  from getting VA status this year???

Any truth to this.???

The White patch is one phenomenon that goes hand in hand with the development of the Black pigment...(seen most of the times in Labradors when you have too many black in the family line...) A simple cross to a... "not so Black"  GSD should fix the problem... but i agree that QUAX Danischen Hof...can upgrade the bloodline if it has diminishing Black mostly on the foreface (making GSDs look line Mals... Fawn with Mask)...I think this is a corrective development for the ESKO Danischen Hof who like Sieger URAN lost most of the Black when he got old...  

Quax for VA??????  are you...?   

These minor white spots are just blips in pigment cell migration and nothing to do with the rest of the pigment.  The white spots are the areas where the pigment hasn't reached and when pups are born, the migration is still incomplete which is why small patches will usually colour in as the puppy grows.

There's probably no major colour gene involvement, just modifyers which inhibit migration, or even no genetic involvement at all in some cases... and the result of a process known as 'developmental noise' which is best described as random events at a molecular level, so pigment cell migration isn't entirely under genetic control.

This type of white has no connection with the solid white/cream in Shepherds, which does have pigment.  It's just very pale.  Panda Shepherds are also different, being the product of a new  gene mutation.

Marci,

It didn't stop Larus. I do consider receding black and faded color to be of greater concern. Jonah

Quax failed courage test. VA ? Well, he is nice looking dog but for VA you need a bit more.

White spots? Personally do not like them. Can tolerate small white on the chest but big one NO.

As far as I know those spots usually appear in matings where one is looking for strong colors.

As fat as the puppy is concerned, looks realy nice, the white spot on the chest will probably stay but be very small while the one on the paw will disapear (probably hardly visible by now).

As far as I know those spots usually appear in matings where one is looking for strong colors.

Quite fitting in our pups case . The breeder of our pup (in the earlier photos ) was looking to improve on the pigment of  her female. She chose an extremely well pigmented stud with this aim (along with achieving  good confirmation and work ability) .The pups father is a strongly pigmented black and tan from a european showline male and workingline  gsd sable bitch . Pups mum is a confirmationally correct black and tan but has some diminishing colour at the base of her saddle (croup area)There male in the litter although a good colour /pigment was not quite as strongly pigmented as her .. Incidently he has no white patches it will be intresting to watch brother and sister grow,,

thanks for all the input :)

Is the almost white dorsal stripe hair ("bitch stripe")  on my B&T female a correlating factor with degree of pigmentation? (She is spayed, so I am just asking out of curiosity.)

Inslee Baldwin