Shipping SAGA NIGHTMARE !!!!!!! - Page 2

All airlines can and will euthanize a dog that is loose and possibly aggressive or one they can't catch - they feel it endangers their staff or could get loose on the runway and endanger others - they can shoot it.   It is up to the owner/shipper to not put the dog on the plane in the first place if getting out of the crate is a possibility - and most airlines will refuse any dog that is thought to be aggressive - they are not there to handle the dog, they handle the crate.  Handling an aggressive dog is not in their job description and why should it be?

molly

Is it traditional for a GSD breeder to charge handling fees and for the health cert in addition to the price of the dog? Duh..... Sort of sounds like getting nickeled and dimed to deathto me. And to charge a boarding fee because the dog missed the flight is really out of line IMO. Was this a breeder in the US? I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling about any of this, but wish you the best with this dog, Echo.

Molly I agree with you and certainly see it from the airlines point of view.  I meant as opposed to tranquilizing it.  Wouldn't that be much better than killing it?

Well Echo, look at it this way. You have proof shipping can be done fine, as you experienced with dog 2. It sounds like you have a seller problem not a shipping one. Don't do business with the jerk off who sent you the aggresive dog and then washed his hands of it, when he dropped it at the AP. Sounds like he ripped you for a bunch of nonsense fees too. I would never pay more than $45 for a health cert, $90 for a 500 crate and reasonable shipping cost. I did get a fee for wiring but it was $30 from my bank to the sellers and that's not bad for $4000 wire.

Sounds like they played on your emotions to rush you into purchase too. Mind sharing this lovely broker/breeders name?

I;ve only shipped a couple of times but have some friends that ship routinely and I have never heard of anything like this happening.

How on earth did they get him back in the crate?  After so many phone calls to you threatening to euthanze him I'm surprised that they put him back on a plane.

Hope everything works out well.

Oh and the driver who dropped the dog off with the brakes and crate roll. He would have got a fat tip.......tip of my boot up his aaaa, well you know where!

<<Molly I agree with you and certainly see it from the airlines point of view.  I meant as opposed to tranquilizing it.  Wouldn't that be much better than killing it?>>

Absolutely but the airlines don't have tranq guns ready in case an aggressive or fearful/traumatized (and therefore aggressive) dog gets loose on the airplane or on the runway.  Even if they did have a tranq gun - where is it?  In some office somewhere, in every airport that is several city blocks in size with 1000's of staff handling baggage?  No, what they have is security guards with guns, not tranq guns.  They could of course call the animal control, but then the dog is loose on the airplane or runway, while animal control is on the way with a tranq gun?  I don't think so.  I'ts not "ok" to have a dog, especially an "aggressive" dog, loose inside the baggage hold where baggage handlers are trying to do their job and handle baggage - people are on a timeline and baggage has to get to the next flight.  Working around loose dogs isn't in their job description.  Loose animals on runways isn't going to happen either.  Could cause major problems - I would be bowing down and kissing someone at that airline's feet for dealing with the dog the way they did.  If he ate the crate they had to fix it or get a new one, catch the dog that was obviously not in a "nice and easy" state of mind at the time, re-crate him, re-book him, try to contact the owner, shipper, new owner - and send the dog on his way.  THAT was something most airlines wouldn't have done.  Lucky dog and lucky Echo that it worked out in that way.

Oh but you should NEVER ship!! and ALWAYS go see the dog and MEET the OWNERS before buying.  And ALWAYS have all tests done BEFORE you get the dog!!!

Who has said that before??????  Oh Wait! I know who!

We've had multiple dogs shipped with no problems.  Reasonable fees, nothing like what mentioned here for wire transfer, health certificate, crates fees, ect.  Kennel fees for overnight stay (weekend) was covered by the shipping company as the delay was due to airline issues, plane was delayed.  All dogs have arrived healthy and happy.  I agree, airlines and airports should not put themselves or others at risk if a dog goes nuts.   A tranq can take quite a while to take effect, the dog can do a lot of damage in that time frame.

Animules, I was thinking the same thing. Also, as much as Echo makes up stories to draw attention to herself, I wonder if this is just another BS story for her self gratification. Looking for a little sympathy are we???

I have shipped alot of adults and puppies from different countries, only 1 issue with customs upon arrival. Until I purchased a pup from Texas and shipped to North Carolina to my daughter. The breeder was great. My daughter shows up at the airport, and they tell her pup did not make the flight and have no idea as to where she is, My daughter calls me, the breeder and we all 3 get on the phone trying to track the puppy, (This is my Daughter's 1st dog on her own) She is handling this well, it took over 1 hour for the airlines to tell her, the piolit declined the pup to board and explains to daughter he has the right, agent told her she thought he should have put the pup in first class the pups ticket was more than anyone else on the plane. Told she might be on the next flight 4 hours later, they do not know where the pup is, the plane is in the air and they can not contact the flight, and no idea where the pup is. So they hang out at the airport, flight come is and they can not confirm the dog was on it. Daughter goes out to put more quarters in the meter, she gets there as parking attendent wrighting ticket, she explains to him what's going on, He tells her this happens all the time and they normally find them dead behind the wall over there. Well at this point daughter loses it she goes back in to termanal sobbing and there she comes walking on her lead like she did not have a care in the world.

EchoMeadows, sorry you had to go thru this, it would make your heart hit your throat. Wish the best in the next few days. You might want to join Yellowrosee for that beer.