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Thank you, Denise, for your kind and considered responce! jackie osborne

You're welcome Jackie..... I'm hunkered down here myself...just waiting......

Denise

Shepherd woman,  I would say yes you would want a breed survey,  (though not always available to all of us on a convenient or even frequent basis)  The benefits of having the survey, KKL, and SchH Titles would be....  Your not considered a BYB anymoe,  Your considered an expert, Your considered a responsible breeder,  the list could go on,  Ok just kidding !

The actual benefits would be that you would have an evaluation done by an unbias individual with the best interest of the breed in mind.  Therefore if you can take that survey read it correctly and unbias that it would be a "tool" for you to use when researching a mate for said dog. 

I agree with Dkiah to the other ? posted by Kalibeck.  I would only add that it would need to be done with the help of someone who has alot of experience in pairing for complimentary genetics.

OK hunkerin down in the fox hole waiting for the explotions,  LOL

Thanks for all of the info.  Where do you find information on what all that they do during the breed survey, and at what age can they have it done?  Also, from what I read out of some of the post, a SchH titled dog is somewhat aggressive and has a hard drive?  What happens when you have a dog like Chaos that thinks he has to lick everyone to death, and so far doesn't seem to have a mean bone in his body? 

Still sitting in crash position!  Can I get out nowwww?  LOL

And also Ms. S.W... aside from being surveyed where you can get the pros and cons... the literal picture of your dog... you'll know what attributes he has, what could be passed on, and if there are any recommendations to correct a flaw... One big difference between AKC type shows and German Sieger-type shows... in AKC all you aim for is getting the Championship...while in sieger-type conformational shows... you aim in getting what the S.V. licensed judge has to say about you dog...And as you know, judging is subjective...the other shows beats you against other dogs (the less dogs to choose from the better chance of winning right??) If you know your dog has fault, major or not winning is not all..The Sieger-type show beats your dog against the GSD standard... and to some judges a fault may not be that heavy if your dogs special attibutes shines and is a trait worth preserving and breeding for... "to know what is right for your dog is doing right for the breed..."

have a nice weekend guys...    :) Marci

Yes of course you can breed a dog that has a flaw or 2. There are NO "perfect" dogs. Just weigh the flaws and breed to another dog that does not carry that same issue and even better, a dog that is known to fix that flaw. Would I breed a dog who's biggest flaw was a long flank? Yeah. Would I breed a dog with nerve issues? No! You have to weigh the good and the bad and make a decision based on your knowledge. Too many people out there already breed because they love their dog. Loving your dog doesn't make him breed worthy! Breeding for OB prospects isn't a good enough reason to breed, not in my opinion anyway. You can find enough dogs bred for real reasons, police work/bomb dogs/sport/show/ and a hundred other reasons, who flunk out and make well suited OB prospects and pets.

To give the American take on this, I know a breeder who had a championship American bred female, with excellent bloodlines, but one hip was a bit iffy. Not dysplastic, but borderline. They dithered about whether to breed her, and finally decided to go ahead, choosing a male that had a reputation for giving good hips.

Out of 10 pups, every single one passed OFA with at least a 'good' rating. And out of 10 pups, 4 now have their championships!

Great news Sun.  I'm glad that people are also posting positive post on this subject. 

Great news Sun.  I'm glad that people are also posting positive post on this subject. 

http://germanshepherddog.com/regulations/breed_survey_regulations.htm

this is a good start for you.....