Kulladogs Kway and advice - Page 2

yELLOW

I told these people the same thing.  "This is not the dog for you".  My people have gotten past the puppy rough-housing and the 9 1/2 month old just tried to eat the lawn fertilizer guy.  Luckily the guy had on some rubber suit.  The dog went for the crotch and tore up the suit.  I have been pleading to these people to return the dog for 3 1/2 months.  After this latest incident, they have seen the light.

FCSC

Why would I be joking?  I never kid around!  Ask anyone on this board.  Why don't you re-read what you quoted from my post.  Did I not say that I have to explain to my three yr old, what not to do?   Didn't I say, "there may be a risk"?

I hate people that come on here and try to read people's minds.  That's the joke to me!  When did I say that 100% of any line is safe.  I just got done explaining to the people that are returning the dog, that no dog is guaranteed and safe in every situation. 

I just went to a house on Thursday and the owner had a showline GSD.  This dog was very friendly, had no drive, and didn't even bark at me as I walked into their house uninvited.  So, am I going to advise someone that is looking for a PET, to go "looking" at showlines?   You had better believe it.  Don't tell me that a good breeder that is breeding dogs like Kway, have PET homes on their mind.  That is a joke to me.  I know a lot of people that sell protection dogs.  A majority of them go to the show lines because working dogs CAN be too much for a PET home or novice.

As to your question about other breeds, I have seen three Labs that had really bad temps.  Two of them had to be muzzled when workers com over. 

I don't know if you have been on here long or you have been a "lurker" for years, but if you are going to try to read my mind, please don't tell everyone about Swedish bikini team I have been thinking about all morning!

I think the point people are trying to make is a pregnant woman, possible first time GSD owner, who wants a dog to take to the park & family cookouts perhaps doesn't require a high drive working line dog.  It's not just about the kids either.  Does this person have the time & experience a high drive dog requires?  The shelters are full of high drive dogs of many breeds not suited to the life style of the family who took home that cute puppy.  The work - show thing is fact, not garbage. 

Rebecca,

If I were in your shoes I'd steer away from the Kway litter.  A hard core working dog can be a great source of frustration to a family expecting a quality pet.  In fact, you may wish to consider postponing your puppy until after you've had your baby, and re-evaluate how much free time you'll have available for the dog. 

Yvette

Hi Rebecca,

I breed working bred dogs.  I have bred to some high drive competitors, and some breedings to top world competitors.  Every litter is different, and some litters, despite being from two high drive dogs, often produce a medium or even sometimes a low drive puppy with a great temperment, impressive intelligence and attitude suitable for your family.  I think it is worth asking the breeder yourself, rather than taking the word of all these people, some who are not breeders, whether or not a pup in the litter may be suitable.  Bill Kulla will probably tell you he won't know until they are about 8 weeks, but he may know the lines so well, he has an inkling of whether or not the dogs might produce what you want.  A person of Bill Kulla's calibur probably would NOT ALLOW you to have a puppy who is not suitable for your family.  I don't myself, and he's got me beat in experience and knowledge for sure.  I encourage you to give Bill a call for your final decision. He knows better than anyone here what his dogs can produce.

Veronica

I'd like to respond to this as someone who has actually lived with Kway day in and day out for the past three and a half years. Yes, Kway is a high level competition dog. Yes, Kway is a very strong dog. But I am amazed at the suggestion that these things mean he, or any other competition dog, is also a dog that cannot live in a family setting.

Off the field, Kway is a very much loved member of our family. He lays on the couch, he goes for hikes and on vacation with us, he chases the water hose, he loves to play with his puppies and show them the ropes. There are many, many Kway sons and daughters who are in homes with small children, other dogs, cats, horses, etc. as well as working in schutzhund, AKC obedience, SAR, agility and other endeavors. I know the same can be said for many other competition and stud dogs in this country. It is about proper emperament above all.

Veronica, thank you for making the same point, and I think the most important thing to consider is that, with a new baby on the way, perhaps this is not the ideal time to add a young puppy to the mix.

Thank you,

Jennifer Acevedo

Becca24

My advice is to get a well bred Show line.! !!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!! 

I have to agree with Don, 

I have working lines and I have had litters sizes of 8/8/10/12. Some puppies show high drive early on, some come out a little later.  In any case in all of my litters I have had at best 4 medium drive pups and they even would be too much for a green person and  someone who is  pregnant on top of it. Show lines make  much better pets.

SchH III FH II,

I would not trade my working line dogs that are also family and our pets for anything.  I would suggest you steer clear of blanket statements that "Show lines make much better pets."

My only concern here would be the combination of a new baby and a new puppy all at once, that seems to be an awfull lot of work piled on top of each other.  Call and talk with the breeder.

Veronica and Kulladogs said it well !!  I totally agree with them

Pia

Jennifer and Bill

I don't think that anyone that comented meant any disrespect to you or Kway.  In fact, I bet we would all love to have a Kway puppy.  The Simple fact is that Kway has an out for all of his assets.  I'm sure he doesn't sit on the couch all day and everyday.  Then you just show up to the trial.  Kway gets a lot of exercise.  He has a place to channel his God given talents.  What we are talking about is a person that is a novice to the working dog that is going to have a newborn baby.  I had to quit SchH for a couple of years because we just had a child.  I didn't think it was fair to my wife to watch the kids constantly while I was out tracking, doing obedience and trying to make it to the club. 

Can it be done?  SURE!  Does she have enough time for the puppy?  That's for her to decide.  If she does decide to buy a pup of that caliber, maybe a little while after the child is born, she will have the time.