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yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 14 June 2007 - 22:06

Yes, thanks Lisa , I just got around to getting link but one of you did it for me   ok in that same article is the Lindale Police dog that mauled a man walking in front of his house....There is never an end to non responsible people.......Within one week of each other , one is a citizens dog, one is a policemans dog........not at all good......and this was a Sheriff Deputy , not Tyler Pd...just correcting my post.,,,, 


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 14 June 2007 - 22:06

There will be a link to the Lindale Pd dog and Ill put it up for you...I had to call paper ,as I couldnt find it and their webmaster couldnt either...hes gonna email me   It had to do with the leash laws being reviewed because the Policemans dog attacked a man walking by their home  ,,,,no detail , I read the article so will wait to post...It mentions it in the today post....but doesnt say what kind of dog, and for the life of me cant remember if Lindale has a Gsd, or a Rotty?????


by Get A Real Dog on 15 June 2007 - 02:06

Funny how two very similar situations recieve two very different responses.

Both officers acknowleged the dog (although we do not know for sure about Deputy Long) and chose to continue toward the respective homes. This officer already knew these dogs were aggressive because that was the nature of the call. The calls were low priority and not an immediate matter of life or death. Neither officer attempted to call for additional units to assist. Both officers sustained injury ( the officer who attempted to use a lesser degree of force first, received a greater injury). Again, we don't really know the extent of Deputy Long's injury- no photo. Dogs were shot. All these dogs ulitmately died and heads decapitated for Rabies testing. Very similar situation.

As with all situations everyone can be second guessed. I bet this officer has gone over what she could have done differently to avoid being injured. I am not saying she did anything wrong. If it were me; I would have shot both those dogs dead. I would have fired as many rounds as it took to completely eliminate the threat. 1 round or 37 rounds. I am glad she didn't get hurt too bad and I bet the next time she goes about things a little bit different becasue she has gained experience from this. 

Now everybody is going to scream Max was tied up. I will repeat a thousand times, we do not know for sure that dog was tied. We do not know for sure Deputy Long saw the dog, and we do not know if the dog broke the choke chain. We know more about this situation because we have a better media story; unbaised with solid statements and fact, not tabloid style.

I believe the real difference in the response to these very similar incidents are, the dogs were Pit Bulls and not GSD's, female officer, the two complete opposite media styles, no inflaming photo's, no distraught family. No one is jumping up to be the hero for all that is good and right and fanning the flames.

 Now instead of "string him by the balls" we have simpathy and people saying they would have done the same.

Very similar situations. Very different responses. Very interesting.

 


by Get A Real Dog on 15 June 2007 - 02:06

I just remembered one other big difference. We don' t have someone impersonating a peace officer.


Trailrider

by Trailrider on 15 June 2007 - 04:06

The difference I see is this PO was just going to the door when attacked. Deputy Long had been to the door and a couple of others . He should have left before coming in contact with Max. He also shot Max 7 times not once. There is also some evidence she actually got bit. Not a pinch barely worh a bandaid. Those are somme of the differences I see.


by EchoMeadows on 15 June 2007 - 04:06

Gard  I am with Trailrider on this one,  There seem to be alot of differences,  1 the type of call...  2.  there was someone home to make contact with... 3.  I'm assuming she KNEW she had the correct address (given that the dogs were there)... 4. these dogs were not tied (and we do KNOW max was indeed tied)  5. She was agressively attacked (vs as reported a pinch)  6. Mattia family had and provided all vaccination records...  that's all I can think of for now,  am gonna go read the story again,  and this is just my observations....  Please don't hack me into little pieces.  :-)


by EchoMeadows on 15 June 2007 - 05:06

OK I found some more specific differences, 

Pepper spray was attempted first !

Patern of history of aggressive dogs kept by the owner !

Dogs were NOT vaccinated !

1 shot opposed to 7 !

2 dogs vs 1 upping the antie on the level of danger (in my op)

The most important difference in my Opinion is that she attempted a non lethal detourant first.  MAJOR DIFFERENCE !!!!!!


by Get A Real Dog on 15 June 2007 - 05:06

and she sustained a significant injury because she attempted to use less-lethal force.


by EchoMeadows on 15 June 2007 - 05:06

WHOA  Gard do not take this the wrong way but...  HOW do YOU know that ???

You don't know that she might not have missed with her weapon on the initial charge,  Do you ?? 

You are correct also in that YES this deputy did receive a substantial wound,  But I am not willing to say that she would have NOT received a bite at all had she attempted her weapon before the dog charged....


by EchoMeadows on 15 June 2007 - 06:06

Ohhh and one other thing you and I will have to disagree on is the statement you make about this being about "Pit Bulls"  I totally disagree 100%   I love pits,  they are most often gentle and very sweet,  the dogs I have the most trouble with in the shelter are Lab mixes,  Shar-pei, and chows.   The most viscious dog I've had here to date was a lab mix.  don't  know what the mix was but he was indeed the most grumpy dog I've ever had here,  This dog was a dog I NEVER entered his kennel.  we would lock him in the back to put feed in the front and then open the gate once the front was shut again. 

Point being,  That I do not beleive the responses are differed here SIMPLY because these dogs were Pits.  JMO though....






 


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