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by 1doggie2 on 07 June 2007 - 16:06

moose88, I would strongly suggest you get help, do you belong to a club? If not find one or locate a trainer that understands a sch male. I am assuming by you posting here you are looking for advice and if you are looking for advice on a male that is asserting himself, you need assistance.  

Occasionally we all need help with different issues. This behaviour will not get better, but worse if not handled properly. Most likey there is nothing wrong with the dog, that a little assistance would fix. Sometimes we also buy dogs that are over our skill level, been there done that and not fun. However, you can get up to speed quickly with the proper help.


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 07 June 2007 - 16:06

I noticed the second word you wrote was "recently".  How long have you had the dog? 

Too many times we want to take our new toy for a test drive.  Im not saying you did this, but too many people don't give an older dog long enough to bond.  I think we get excited about our new dog and want to see how great he really is.  If he is a hard dog, the last thing you want to do is go into heavy corrections.  Heck, if the dog is that hard, I wouldn't even do obedience with a leash and corrections.  I'd take Rover in the back yard  with a tug or a ball and do our obedience that way for about a month. No corrections, just fun and bonding.  If that doesn't work, it is time to crack out the Louisville Slugger!


by spook101 on 07 June 2007 - 17:06

Don, what you say is very correct, but more info has to be supplied by poster before there can be a legitimate evaluation. Many people make the mistake, you illustrate, when getting a titled or trained dog. There may be nothing wrong with the dog and some of the misinformed comments of others may cause the buyer to bail on a perfectly good animal.

by moose88 on 07 June 2007 - 20:06

He has been here for about a month and a half. My SchH3 never did anything like this. In fact me and my dog had a round today, he is a fence runner, and I yelled the correction to stop, and he looked and growled. Well I have figured out that he doesn't like the water hose, so I pointed it at him, and he came towards me snapping and growling so I popped him with it.

Owning this dog has taught me alot, and many may not agree with me, but I think a dog should repeat titles, regardless if he passed them or not. I came on here a while back and asked should a title be done again if low scores were earned and I got the reply "would you send your kid back to the same grade if he had d's? Of course not, cause he passed!"

I think that mentality is what creates dogs like this, because if he scores low on the title, most likely he will fail the next.


animules

by animules on 07 June 2007 - 20:06

A month and a half is barely enough time to know is name and for him to know your voice.  We've been told, and have ssen it enough times to believe, a grown male GSD can take up to a year to fully completely bond with and trust his new owner.  Not saying total lack of control but the trust that comes with time and consistent work and pack order.

by moose88 on 07 June 2007 - 20:06

Well my SchH3 came from Germany, and I guess I was silly to believe I would EVER get one as good as him, he bonded with me in about 3 weeks.

animules

by animules on 07 June 2007 - 20:06

Our strong male from Germany we got at just under 2-years.  He just turned 3 and is now fully our dog.  Okay, fully hubbys dog but I'm okay too.  He's been worth the effort, most of the time!  :)

by spook101 on 07 June 2007 - 22:06

moose, it sounds as if you are afraid of this dog. If that is the case then you will not be able to go any farther with it. Not a criticism, an observation. The best and fairest thing you can do , at this point, is to find a handler with the ability to properly take care of the dog.

By the way I received one of the finest GSDs I have ever seen last August. It took me 4 or 5 months before I was completely comfortable with him.

Additionally, the following statement; makes it sound as if you  are blaming people on the board for this. Buying titled working dogs without finding out what makes them tick, may be your real problem. Cavetor emperatus-it is your responsibility to know what you are purchasing.

"Owning this dog has taught me alot, and many may not agree with me, but I think a dog should repeat titles, regardless if he passed them or not. I came on here a while back and asked should a title be done again if low scores were earned and I got the reply "would you send your kid back to the same grade if he had d's? Of course not, cause he passed!"

I think that mentality is what creates dogs like this, because if he scores low on the title, most likely he will fail the next."

Don't take it personally, you are not and will not be the only one to make this mistake.


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 08 June 2007 - 06:06

Moose,

Before you bail on this dog, take him to a club and get a second set of eyes on him, and you.  There's not enough info in your posts to really know what's going on, except that you see behaviors in the dog that upset you. 

For example, growling at the family...  Is this dominance, or fear?   Sorry, but I dropped my crystal ball last week and the super glue isn't holding it together very well. 

Do you have a club nearby?   Doesn't even have to be SchH, just a group that knows dogs.  PSA?  Ring?  Anything?  I hope you're not stuck in a vacuum.

In any case, I hope you don't expect to find a carbon copy of your SchH3 dog somewhere.  If so you might as well sell or return the other dog right away and give it up.  Each dog will have his or her own unique temperment, strengths, and weaknesses.  Sometimes it's just a question of chemistry between dog and handler. 

Yvette

 


by moose88 on 08 June 2007 - 07:06

spook101,

I am not sure why you believe I am afraid of this dog, there has yet to be one that frightens me. I dont think I would have met him half way with the water hose is I was scared.

I have had him looked at by other people, they do not know what to think of him.

I think SchHbabe hit it right on the nail, however. I expected to get a good, clear headed dog, and instead what I got was a dog who does not know how to take different enviroments, and the only reaction he knows to show is anger.






 


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