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Some of it is public record and some of it isn't and been proven to be false.
That still falls under slander.

You mean libel.

No, actually libel is somewhat misunderstood when it concerns the internet.
The way many courts are viewing this is that what people write on the internet in these forums and chat rooms still falls under a quasi form of oral word, meaning slander.
Traditionally libel has been when something is published in a book, written in a newspaper, a magazine, reported on television and the like.
There have been cases where an internet site was devoted to a specific person and that person was wrongfully defamed by what was presented on the website and the courts have agreed that this is libel.
Overall though, so far, there has been no clear consensus in the courts from state to state in how they are viewing internet forum chat room/forums posts and delineating whether it is libel or slander.

Is there an axe to grind here?

I call it libel as does 99% of all sites. I guess all these are wrong. My bad

No axe to grind.
I work in the legal field.
Just trying to provide a little education. My bad!

I understand that informing people of breeding practices may be important. I just don't understand how telling someone how to raise their child has anything to do with original post or a benefit to Pedigreee data base as to inform buyers

  Nothing is proved by this thing going on other then making it be on the most posted list.  Everybody associated with the comments on this thread is being made to look like an extremist in one way or in others views.  No one is going to be proved right or wrong on a message board.  Courts of law make mistakes all the time from lack of information.  If you think not?  How many people have been proved innocent after being on death row?  And people here think they can make judgments after hearing one side?  Even a court of law understands that just by hearing the case from both sides they are probably not hearing all the evidence.  That is why it is called a Judgment.    People are saying things that could cause others to lose respect for them, and it is unnecessary.   Move one. 

by GSD Admin (admin) on 08 December 2012 - 09:12	GSD Admin (admin)  Posts: 5860 Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2010 05:51 am
Slander Law Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation. A false and malicious statement or report about someone. What Jenni posted is a matter of public record and therefore is true and accurate. I get tired of hearing how this is slander. Please read here.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation Carry on.

 

I post a few public records (there are oodles more, if anyone's interested) directly pertaining to the character of someone falsely accusing me (I never said her history was pertinent to issuing a check or not, as I always said I would pay her for him), and you call it slander or libel.  Yet, your sick little clique, who are all so bizarrely intertwined in each other's business and regularly switch teams and bashes each other, as well (shall we go there, too?) have been posting things you basically made up about me for over 12 pages, and that's just "clearing someone's name?"   

I decided that it was safer to handle this in court, even if she would have the home court advantage (sorry, couldn't resist...) and get an order with a set, fixed amount of money I could pay her and be done with her. I fail to see how this shows her innocence or my guilt or vice versa or "vindicates" her or proves anything about what you're accusing me of. It's simply a legal record of what I had been trying to do for months. There was no contract, there was no refund clause, this was just a special deal for a special dog in special circumstances!  You all act like there an O.J. level trial and I was found to be guilty of something.

When one party isn't there to testify, they issue a default judgment for the plaintiff, which is exactly what I wanted. I told my attorney (and btw, that bit about him is pretty hilarious- I bet that's why he didn't charge me after he forgot to tell me we had court, LMAO! He figured one case of censure on his record was enough!) to find out what the hell she wanted and give it to her, as she'd ignored my 4 previous offers over the past several months. I offered to send him to court with a blank check. He really wanted to fight it and thought I was wrong to pay her. In fact, he's still urging me, based on evidence, to go back to trial and get this released or whatever the proper legal word is. I wonder how this thread would play into it now? 

I don't think I've ever seen so much of the pot calling the kettle black. YOU people are the ones who are harassing and slandering people with libelous posts, calling people who bought dogs from me looking for any tidbit of negative information you could post here, trying to recruit people who might have something bad to add about me (you do know there are records of those calls, right?), sending emails that people finally blocked and threatened legal action for, and even going so far as to start conspiracy theories about Caleb (actually, I guess I hope lightning strikes twice). Talk about f***ing sick. Talk about harassment. Were you picked on in high school? 

Get on with your lives, stop emailing and calling my puppy owners, stop making up things, stop questioning people about whether my dead dog is really dead and crawl back under your respective rocks.

Why are you doing this? Not sure, exactly, but I think it's because you know you can get away with it. Because you know that even though I have quite a few juicy tidbits on several of you, I would never do what you're doing, to anyone, EVER. I hope you're happy with who you are. 

 

That the "breeder" stated publicly on this forum and others that the OP maliciously broke this pup's elbows by repeated trauma, and that the discolored baby tooth, which later produced a defective adult tooth, was due to injury by the OP, and that there was trauma inflicted to the face by the OP is most definately an attempt to slander the OP's character, particularly when posted on a public DOG forum about a Dog person who must also go to training every day with the very members who see these accusations being stated about her. 
It was a deliberate attempt to discredit the OP, and to deflect away her own responsibility to make good on this pup's elbows. 

UAP is nothing that could have been done by the OP or her family.  It is a failure of the bones to fuse together at the elbow joint. It happens occasionally, and more often than not has no bearing on the quality of the parents who produced it.   The diagnosis for UAP was clear, the OP had documentation that this is what the diagnosis was with the pup, and yet the "breeder" continued to go on and on about the abuse this pup endured by the OP.  And without so much as an ounce of proof of these accusations.  The "breeder" knew full well that these things had already been sustained by the pup at the time the pup was delivered to the OP.  Members of the OP's training club were aparently showed these areas when the pup was brought to training.  The OP treated them as necessary, and didn't make any trouble for the "breeder" over her having been given a pup with these old injuries already present in the pup she received.

My understanding is that you don't need a contract, and that you offer a lifetime buyback on all your puppies.

I only got into this because your friend and fire fueler hunger brought me, yet again,  into it by mentioning my name in her previous post, when she started defending caleb, when no one had even brought him up! 

And since you brought Caleb up, as a courtesy to me, his breeder...your dog Caleb von Schraderhaus...  I believe it would have been a great courtesy for you to have given me even one short email about him passing, and let me know how and why that happened.  As his breeder, I feel entitled to know that.

I gave my sincere condolences about your loss, on the thread your friend posted about his passing, which by the way I felt was an extremely cold way to announce that he had passed, but I have not said anything about it publicly or otherwise because I know first hand the pain of loosing a beloved dog suddenly.  That being said, it is very questionable that more information was not given about what happened, if only to warn others to be careful so as to not incurr the same results with their own dogs if this was a medication induced death, and because you always write very detailed commentary on everything else, but said very little about how this occurred.