and the truth shall prevail......... - Page 13

 Hunger, lots of people have well bred dogs that can and do work. This is about doing the right thing and not trying to degrade someones family because you bred a puppy with a genectic fault. Just so you can understand this is about the integrity of the person (breeder)not the quality of the pups lines. Consider yourself lucky your pup didn't have a genectic fault. Otherwise you might be  in TH's shoes. I bet you'd be singing a different song if that were the case.

" I am getting really sick of this public bashing which I COULD join in on with a lot of specifics, but wont.  HOWEVER, please do NOT insult those of us who are very happy with our WUSV Ch Grimm and WUSV Ch Quasy progeny.  I can assure you when Jean Schraderhaus bred Caleb, he was not just an ordinary dog and neither is my Caleb son and if you look at his lines they are not just ordinary lines.  I also think Pete and Nadeem and others are also happy with our pups.  Granted my dog is not everyone's cup of tea but in your efforts to trash Jenn you trash all of us and the kennels that bred the Sire and Dam.  Further, I don't blame Jennifer for not wanting another shepherd, because if I hadn't started rescue fostering when my dog Commander died, I really don't know if my heart could have taken another because it IS unfair to the new one if you compare them to the one in a million heart dog that some of us were lucky to have.  Jennifer has rescued so many dogs of all breeds that you all do not even realize.  So a dog, from any breeder...ANY...might have an issue.  So you don't like how it was handled....still, please do not then try to denegrate dogs from progeny like Grimm and Xero and the Kennels that bred them in the process.  Thank you. "


I asked you repeatedly not to ever bring Caleb's breeder into any Jennie' drama. Leave the puppy owners out and show some respect woman, if they wanted to be dragged into this, they would have vioced their opinion! I assure you that they dont feel anybody is trashing their dogs ( at least I really hope not as I would not trash a dog, I will not hold the breeder against any dog!). This has nothing to do with their dogs, leave those people out of this unless they come here and participate on their own!


I say it again...

Elkoors post was kind and a huge eye opener for some, the rest of the people chose to ignore it... everyone choice.

I am not the one that said, "  the fact that her dogs are no different than many out there,What really drives home the fact that her dogs are no different than many out there, is the fact that even she doesn't want one. " 

Don't tell me not to be proud of my dog and his lineage.  You of all people should know they are extaordinary dogs. 

This is why I don't do contracts. I buy the dog the dog is mine 100 percent - see ya. If my dog has a health issue in his lifetime l deal with it myself. I love my dogs breeder. Best of the best dogs and humans.

Hunger, I don't think people are bashing Jens dogs or insulting people who have her pups, personally I like them. They are bashing the way she handled this from day one.

Maybe you should have shown her the pretty little picture you just posted before she ever started this mess.

Hunger4justice, no one here has bashed the puppies the
'breeder' has produced. I think the point so many are trying
to make is that this particular 'breeder' has placed herself
up on a tremendously high pedestal and constantly looks
down on and denigrates anyone who 'dares' to call her on
her bullshit, lack of actual experience or knowledge etc.
You want people to make nice-nice, when in fact, you were also
one of the handful that harassed the breeder of the OP's new
puppy weren't you? Perhaps one should take their own advice
before insisting others choke it down. 

  No one has insulted
or denigrated the breeders of her dogs either, not sure where you 
got that from.    It doesn't strike you as odd that all this 'breeders'
dogs and puppies are so outstanding that she doesn't keep anything
from the multiple litters she has whelped? In fact the puppies are
so outstanding this 'breeder' went ahead and purchased a GSD puppy
from someone else recently? It speaks volumes to many experienced
dog people if a breeder doesn't keep anything back themselves from
what they have bred. I would think as a puppy buyer like yourself, 
you might get slightly insulted by the manner this 'breeder' speaks 
of anyone involved in the sport seeing as how you want to title your dogs. 

This is about a 'breeder' that went on a smear campaign on multiple
dog forums crying abuse and neglect because apparantly it was just
too damn hard to deal with the reality that her 'perfect' dog produced 
a common genetic fault-news flash, I bet more will come! The progeny
of this 'breeders' bitch is coming of age for OFA now, so more could be
coming to light. Hopefully those buyers don't go through what the OP did.
Shit happens, puppies win the shit luck lottery at times and can't pass OFA.

This 'breeder' has blamed the OP for  everything but Hurricane Sandy
and Obama being re-elected. Then on top of all this, this 'breeder' tried to
overtly blackmail the OP with threats of 'exposing her', cried the
'poor me I am a single mother with a $20,000.00 custody bill',
by the way, thats WHY the OP returned the puppy to the 'breeder'
and was generous enough to allow the 'breeder' a little time to get
her paid back, in fact, even offered to continue the pet insurance etc.
How did the 'breeder' repay this? Well, thats what this thread is about. 

The OP has had a chance to speak her piece, showed proof of numerous
things, and now just wants what is rightfully and long overdue her.
And still the 'breeder' tries to shovel shit on her.

I still wonder, how many of you would be so patient to get f*cked around
for close to $2000.00 

No I did NOT harass any breeder.  This could get very ugly very fast.  Shall we go there?   Shall I post the transcript of the phone message I got asking me for information-messages I have SAVED?  Shall I post the email orignally sent TO me?  Shall I go into detail about court records that were a lot more revealing than people want to say?  Who called me, Workingdogz?  Do you know?  Just because they did not like my answer does not make me guilty of harassment.  

Frankly I don't care, the OP got her new puppy and is 
trying in vain to move on. She just wants what is rightfully
and long overdue owed to her, and all the trashing of
her and her family to stop. Nothing more. I don't think
thats unreasonable do you?

Hunger, could I ask you a question, and please don't take it the wrong way as I know nothing about anybody harassing anybody, but out of curiosity why would the breeder of the new puppy Teufel got contact you about the puppy that was returned to it's breeder, wouldn't they just contact Jen, as the breeder, to find out what was going on, maybe it's common practice I don't know, was just curious

thanks