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Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 22 April 2013 - 16:04

Bee, 
But the other point is, they don't need whatever he says during this "public safety special exception" interrogation time, to prove him guilty in a court. They already have such overwhelming evidence against him.

Thank you!  That is exactly correct!  Let's be clear, I am all for Miranda and certainly do understand Miranda and the case law surrounding it's use.  I happen to be extremely well versed in case law in reference to custodial interrogations, 4th Ammendment Issues and non custodial interviews.  If someone wanted to have an intelligent fact based discussion on when Miranda applies that would be worthwhile.   I would think the overwhelming amount of evidence against him will certainly be enough to gain a conviction in this case.  His statements are not necessary for trial, it would be nice to interview him and see what other plans he had, who else may have been involved and where they learned to make the IED's?  It is the information that comes from interviews with suspects of this nature that build profiles, identify security weaknesses and threats as well as co conspirators.  

Don't get hung up on Miranda and whether or not it was read to him before questioning.  The FBI is very skilled and will proceed with the utmost care in questioning this individual, one because they want certain questions answered, two because this is a very serious, high profile case dealing with National Security, Homeland Defense and Terrorism.  Again, even if Miranda wasn't't read it would just make his statements inadmissible.  I really don't think they need his statements for a conviction as Bee so correctly pointed out.  I would bet my paycheck that the US Atty assigned to this case will be overseeing the interview every step of the way.  If you have ever taken a case to Federal Court, and I have had a few investigations go Federal, it is a night and day difference from State Prosecutions. 
 

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 22 April 2013 - 19:04

Do you see what I see ... pay close attention to the package behind the barricade, the Craft guys, guy in a white cap and the package area after they tear down. Then watch the 2nd video. What Smile


 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 22 April 2013 - 23:04

Yeah,.
this one kinda has a familiar odor to it, not quite like the last one but similar.
They now know they can lock down a major city.
I had some doubts when I saw the white smoke, and the limited blast area.


 

by beetree on 22 April 2013 - 23:04

Uh huh. eewwe that smell. Can't you smell that smell? eewwe that smell. The smell that gets around you?....pshaw.....

by beetree on 23 April 2013 - 10:04

I wonder if he wants to die now. Hmm. Everyone I talk to seems to think justice will mean his death. 
Yes, what next? This is the really chilling part to read, I think... hard to believe what callousness it takes to do this:

After the first blast, a block away from Dzhokhar, "virtually every head turns to the east ... and stares in that direction in apparent bewilderment and alarm," the complaint says. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, "virtually alone of the individuals in front of the restaurant, appears calm."

He then quickly walked away, leaving a knapsack on the ground; about 10 seconds later, a bomb blew up at the spot where he had been standing, the FBI said.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/boston-marks-week-marathon-bombs-silence-19013202?page=2#.UXaFMpV4F5g


I found this woman's story very interesting, too, the mother gave her facials!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/20/know-boston-bombers/



 

Carlin

by Carlin on 23 April 2013 - 10:04

Callousness. Islam doesn't subscribe to humanism, so while they could potentially subscribe to the sanctity of human life, it isn't preeminent.

by beetree on 23 April 2013 - 11:04

So maybe you know this Carlin, what is it with Islam (extremists) and virgins? Why do they always get offered virgins for jihad? They are never happy with one virgin, either! It must be dozens of them. That is one reason why I can't believe all this killing is based on "religion". It is a corruption, an excuse to hate. Why do such murderously minded people hate? Or rather the hate turns them to murder? Or are they just murderers who find an excuse and use the contradictions in Islam, because it is easy to pervert them. Why did the eldest brother take the freedoms of the USA and decide to hate the people here, even becoming one of them by choice; just every day, normal people going about their lives?

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 23 April 2013 - 11:04

This teenager who is undoubtedly heavily drugged on probably morphine and sedatives should have had his Miranda rights read to him. The drugs alone are enough to cause every word he says to not be admissible in court especially if he has a good lawyer. I know when I was heavily drugged and sedated I would answer any questions asked of me. I am glad a couple of members were able to figure out the obvious that the evidence in this case is overwhelming so really what harm is done by reading him his Miranda rights? He is probably not cognitive enough to demand that the questioning be stopped so a lawyer can be present. lol.

Yes, lets talk facts, an intelligent fact based conversation. Is that like busting into someone's house over ornamentals and not being able to tell the difference between marijuana and ornamentals?  Causing an officer to be shot and NO drug charges to ever be filed in the case? Yes, intelligence.

So, please take your condescending fact based intelligence and stick it where the sun doesn't shine, officer.

by beetree on 23 April 2013 - 11:04

He's already been read his rights... why are you so worked up over this? Aren't you flogging a dead horse?  Thinking  There is a request and he should be getting two lawyers specializing in death penalty trials. You aren't understanding some things correctly, is how I see it.
 

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 23 April 2013 - 12:04

One thing I have learned here is that when someone is taking a lot of meds it makes having a rational, intelligent conversation extremely difficult.  In general, an intelligent conversation can be difficult at best with some, but add in pains meds and its like a train wreck.   





 


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