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by Ibrahim on 12 January 2011 - 13:01
AadA,
Very interesting quote,
At the start of my learning the GSD construction and conformation Sonora referred me to German Shepherd Dog Council of Australia (Inc) website, on the site there is a manual for judges for breed survey, here is a quote of what they wrote about the type:
SURVEY PROCEDURE (cont)
Type
This is a general, but accurate description relating to the overall 'type' of the dog. The ideal type
being a dog of anatomical proportions and structure that perfectly suits its ability to serve as a
working dog.
So my take on it is the type is a general description of :
(1. Dog anatomical proportions & 2. Structure) to serve the working ability of the dog.
Ibrahim
Very interesting quote,
At the start of my learning the GSD construction and conformation Sonora referred me to German Shepherd Dog Council of Australia (Inc) website, on the site there is a manual for judges for breed survey, here is a quote of what they wrote about the type:
SURVEY PROCEDURE (cont)
Type
This is a general, but accurate description relating to the overall 'type' of the dog. The ideal type
being a dog of anatomical proportions and structure that perfectly suits its ability to serve as a
working dog.
So my take on it is the type is a general description of :
(1. Dog anatomical proportions & 2. Structure) to serve the working ability of the dog.
Ibrahim

by AandA on 12 January 2011 - 13:01
I think type is always with reference to the Standard and the standard (should) defines the qualities required for that particular working dog.
Other (working) breed standards will define the qualities required for their particular type.
AandA
Other (working) breed standards will define the qualities required for their particular type.
AandA
by Ibrahim on 12 January 2011 - 14:01
Here is a link of a article/debate about type:
http://www.rhosyngsd.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10
Here is a discussion of forearm:
http://www.rhosyngsd.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
Here is another one:
http://www.rhosyngsd.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=9
http://www.rhosyngsd.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10
Here is a discussion of forearm:
http://www.rhosyngsd.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=8
Here is another one:
http://www.rhosyngsd.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=9
by Ibrahim on 12 January 2011 - 14:01
Also about type,
Here is what is written about type in the "AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL KENNEL COUNCIL, extended breed standard"
Quote:
! GENERAL APPEARANCE
The German Shepherd Dog is medium size, slightly elongated, strong and well
muscled, the bones are dry and the overall construction firm. The length of
the body is greater than the height at the withers by about 10 to 17%.
The immediate impression of the appearance of the GSD is of a dog slightly long in
comparison to its height, with a powerful and well-muscled body. The relation between
height and length and the position and symmetry of the limbs (the angulation) is
inter-related in such a way as to enable a far-reaching and enduring gait. The coat
should be weatherproof. A beautiful appearance is desirable, but this is secondary to
his usefulness as a working dog. Excessive looseness of overall ligamentation is a
major fault. Sexual characteristics must be well defined, i.e. the masculinity of the
male and the femininity of the female must be unmistakable.
A true to type GSD gives an impression of innate strength, intelligence and suppleness with harmonious proportions and nothing either overdone or lacking. His whole manner should make it perfectly clear that he is sound in mind and body and has the physical and mental attributes to make him always ready for tireless action as a working dog.
Here is what is written about type in the "AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL KENNEL COUNCIL, extended breed standard"
Quote:
! GENERAL APPEARANCE
The German Shepherd Dog is medium size, slightly elongated, strong and well
muscled, the bones are dry and the overall construction firm. The length of
the body is greater than the height at the withers by about 10 to 17%.
The immediate impression of the appearance of the GSD is of a dog slightly long in
comparison to its height, with a powerful and well-muscled body. The relation between
height and length and the position and symmetry of the limbs (the angulation) is
inter-related in such a way as to enable a far-reaching and enduring gait. The coat
should be weatherproof. A beautiful appearance is desirable, but this is secondary to
his usefulness as a working dog. Excessive looseness of overall ligamentation is a
major fault. Sexual characteristics must be well defined, i.e. the masculinity of the
male and the femininity of the female must be unmistakable.
A true to type GSD gives an impression of innate strength, intelligence and suppleness with harmonious proportions and nothing either overdone or lacking. His whole manner should make it perfectly clear that he is sound in mind and body and has the physical and mental attributes to make him always ready for tireless action as a working dog.
by Ibrahim on 12 January 2011 - 15:01
I can sum up what Rik phrased beautifully and simply plus what AandA explaied in this quote again from the extebded standard:
Quote:
SUMMARY
When seen in outline, the GSD, with noble head carriage, should present a clean
flowing, descending topline from the ears to the set of the tail. Equally, a clean
underline should show good fore chest with moderate chest development (to the
elbows), good length of under chest, and rounding to a modest tuck up of stomach.
The well angulated and constructed forequarter should be in balance with a wellangulated and powerful hindquarter.

The desired GSD will exude well-defined sexual characteristics, much self-assurance
and abundant temperament. With the desired mental attributes to work, very good
fore and hindquarter construction, near ideal proportions and firm ligaments, the
well-constructed dog should approach the ideal movement described in the GSD
Breed Standard.
A well-constructed, self assured and enthusiastic dog that has balanced movement
is a joy to watch. The reach and drive are equally effective, and the dog seems to
flow effortlessly around the ring with minimal endeavour and maximum ground cover
Quote:
SUMMARY
When seen in outline, the GSD, with noble head carriage, should present a clean
flowing, descending topline from the ears to the set of the tail. Equally, a clean
underline should show good fore chest with moderate chest development (to the
elbows), good length of under chest, and rounding to a modest tuck up of stomach.
The well angulated and constructed forequarter should be in balance with a wellangulated and powerful hindquarter.

The desired GSD will exude well-defined sexual characteristics, much self-assurance
and abundant temperament. With the desired mental attributes to work, very good
fore and hindquarter construction, near ideal proportions and firm ligaments, the
well-constructed dog should approach the ideal movement described in the GSD
Breed Standard.
A well-constructed, self assured and enthusiastic dog that has balanced movement
is a joy to watch. The reach and drive are equally effective, and the dog seems to
flow effortlessly around the ring with minimal endeavour and maximum ground cover
by sonora on 14 January 2011 - 01:01
Hi Ibrahim,
Thank you for posting the web pages of Louis Donald,s articles.
I know Louis personally and he is a fantastic and no nonsense judge.
I've been his chief ring steward during his judging appointments in Malaysia.
He has guided me and taught me a lot ,on how to evaluate a dog.
He judged our last show in East Malaysia and gave a fantastic seminar.
Those articles will help make the playing field a little more level.
Thank you again for sharing
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