Comments on her please - Page 2

Before I wrote my comments I checked the profile of the OP and saw he/she is a breeder, my understanding is a breeder seeks third party opinion less he/she gets trapped in kennel blindness, that's why I stated how I see this girl straight-forward, mentioning the most important elements, I confess I am not the best over here in selecting eloquent words.
It is healthy to hear several views especially from experienced members such as Euroshepherd, Xeph & Elkoor, these are some (among others) of the members we learn from. I am not familiar with the American GSD, but my comments were based on the standard.
I didn't say pasterns were weak as weak means they're way/too overangulated, I only said the pasterns are over angulated as standard says pasterns angle should be 20 or 22 degrees while the bitche's pasterns appear to me not less than 30 degrees and hence overangled but they're not bad at all, some VAs have steeper pasterns.
Standard says chest depth is 45-48% of height at withers, the bitch's chest appears more than 50% of height at the withers and hence I said too deep and legs are short. Standard also says the body length is 10-17% longer than the height at withers, her body length appears of more than 25% longer than her height. To me the above are her disadvantages, correct proportions lead to optimum balance which I think she lacks especially when you add the neck length/slenderness and the somewhat smaller head size.
Some of her biggest advantages include her front assembly; very good front upper arm, very good shoulder blade, very good fore chest development and clean front, these are the most difficult to set and maintain in a line, also very difficult to correct. Her topline including withers, croup and tailset is very good and that is a plus to her. In regards to the hind I think it is deep but that is debatable.
In the new picture her gaiting looks good to me but other's can give better comments on that, I don't want what I said earlier to be looked at as equal to " I don't like her ", I think whether I do or don't like her personally is irrelevant.
That is how I see her and compare her to the standard, several views is a good thing even if contradicting, I could be wrong afterall and keep in mind I did not take into account she's American, I visualize her as I would do any other GSD. Good luck

Ibrahim

Ibrahim (I spelled your name wrong initially, I apologize) you have to remember that the CKC/AKC GSD is not bred by the same written standard as the FCI (SV) Standard.

While the standards aren't entirely different, they are still different.

I would also like to add that since the AM Bred lines have taken a downhill spiral for a while, and many people criticized the breeders, this girl is an example that the breed is heading in the right direction.  

Hmm, weird. I mostly agree with Ibrahim in his critique and I have always found him to be impartial to bloodlines. I look at that bitch and see a chesty (she looses a bit of femininity), short legged, long bodied bitch. Now, she has PLENTY of great qualities to her as well such as a lovely croup. I think the OP asked for an honest critique and got just that. She has a lot of good qualities but also areas that need improvement..like all our dogs!!

I don't think one should judge her based on american show ring dogs but on the FCI and AKC GSD breed standard (not what is rewarded in either ring)....... 

Sara

i like that she doesn't seem cowhocked!

Like I said before. I am basing my opinion on comparisions to what has been criticized in the past.  I have not told anyone to base their opinion on or what standards they shoudl use. I gave MY OPINION, which I do not consider it to be the correct one or the wrong one.  ITS ONLY MY OPINION!     Once again, I LIKE HER!

What we all need to realize is that, THERE IS NO PERFECT DOG!  JMO!  Thanks to the OPster for sharing this girl with us and setting yourself up for the good the bad and the ugly..

What Hutchins said, lol

Congrats to the OP, it takes a lot of guts to ask for a critique of an ASL on this form. I'd never do it myself LOL. Also nice critiques from GSL and GWL people. It's so easy to fault a dog, but it takes skill to recognize the positive points too.

I'm glad to see people asking for critiques on their dogs that are not Euro-showlines or workinglines.  Makes me feel more diversified

The photos of this girl are gorgeous, I especially like the one of her front, very pretty!

She does seem a tad long-bodied to me, this is something that I personally always forgive in bitches, their bodies are supposed to be slightly longer in ratio than males. 
I also think that she is deep-bodied....this is (IMO) a minor fault, it visually appeals to me, I like the big chest looks in a dog.  Only concern is if the dog is more prone to torsion (not at all saying that this dog is.)

EuroShepherd, I totally agree with you, and I also really  like this girl!

Xeph....   so sorry you just can't get it...  But I am glad I gave you a good laugh!