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by donfernan on 21 November 2011 - 23:11
by Slamdunc on 22 November 2011 - 01:11
Jim
by Dog1 on 22 November 2011 - 01:11
by Q Man on 22 November 2011 - 02:11
A lot of questions need to be answered before you can even consider trying to giving him a bite on a sleeve...Hopefully you've prepared him correctly...although I seriously doubt it because there are very few 7 month olds that are really ready for a full sleeve...
~Bob~
by Gustav on 22 November 2011 - 03:11
by GSDguy08 on 22 November 2011 - 04:11
by TingiesandTails on 22 November 2011 - 04:11
by Slamdunc on 22 November 2011 - 05:11
It really depends on the dog, the handler, the relationship with the dog and the type of training. Yes, I would and have worked my dogs on rags, tugs, pillows and sleeves. For a sport dog it is really not a big deal with an experienced handler who can decoy. I have worked my dogs with sleeves. I do not do this with my Police K-9, although I have done it at demos when no one else was available to take a bite. My dog has no handler aggression and no issues outing.
I know some handlers that have done all of their own bitework to a SchH 1 level. Wearing a sleeve and doing a H&B is not a big deal to get some really good barking. The key is to make sure it is clear that the sleeve is prey and you are not pushing the dog into defense. That is one way problems can arise, along with poor presentation, poor grips and the dog getting dirty. Over the years I have seen many new owners with good intentions do more harm than good by trying to work their own dog.
I have also noticed that my dogs do not bite the sleeve with the same intensity when I wear it as compared to a decoy wearing it. Decoying for dogs is a skill that takes years to develop, there is a lot more to it than just putting a sleeve on your arm. My advice is that if someone is not sure how to do it, just wait until you can find a good club or decoy. There really is no big rush.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
by Slamdunc on 22 November 2011 - 05:11
But besides that my dog needs to know that play (tug) and work (sleeve) are two different parts of the game and the dog has to know that he/she is never allowed to turn against me.
Most dogs figure out that it is all a game. If there is ever any doubt that the dog will view it as serious bite work or has any handler aggression issues then I would not recommend it. Giving a dog a bite on a sleeve will not cause it to turn against you, unless you do something crazy. If that is the case there are other issues to work on and I think/hope the handler would have seen the signs.
by Super Para on 22 November 2011 - 10:11
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