Elbow Dysplasia Grade meaning? - Page 1

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by jillmissal on 27 October 2020 - 09:10

While researching a dog I came across the code "ED-GF" in regards to elbow dysplasia. I'm not familiar with what that means; does anyone know?

by GSCat on 27 October 2020 - 21:10

Suspicion of ED


by Hundmutter on 28 October 2020 - 03:10

May be useful to know just what the letters 'GF' represent ? And surely there is no such thing as a 'suspicion' of ED, they either have one of the joint malformations or they don't - or so I have read. Its then the degree that matters. Unless this grading was given only on a prelim and the dog was very young ?

by jillmissal on 28 October 2020 - 11:10

May be useful to know just what the letters 'GF' represent

Agreed! I wish I knew. I think use of the word "suspicion" is likely a bad translation of whatever original language "GF" is from, as B1 hips ("fair" in OFA parlance) are also "suspicion." And as B1/Fair hips are still normal, I don't think I'd use the language "suspicion of hip dysplasia."


by Hundmutter on 28 October 2020 - 13:10

I think Fantom would possibly know, if she wasn't off sick @ the moment. I don't even know which country this abreviation comes from. I'm just used to elbows getting a straight 0 / 1 / 2 / or 3.

by jillmissal on 28 October 2020 - 15:10

I'm assuming it's a German term, but I'm unsure.

by GSCat on 28 October 2020 - 20:10

New Zealand Veterinary Association (NZVA) Elbow Dysplasia Scheme grading form has confirmed and suspicion lines of grades.

Having issues accessing my account with them right now. I'll try again later or tomorrow.

by GSCat on 29 October 2020 - 01:10

Still having issues [rolleyes]


In any case, search online for Changes to NZVA Canine Elbow Dysplasia Scheme The link will be a pdf that includes the form I referenced earlier. One of the lines on the vet form is Suspicion.


If OP was looking at https://www.working-dog.com website, there are many dogs listed there with HD-GF Suspicion for elbows in their pedigrees. Some also have HD grade B1 Suspicion for hips. Based on this plus info in the comparison chart I linked to below, I would *assume* the specific grade associated with GF might be B1 or B2, depending on the comparison organization OP is referencing.


Examples of such pedigrees




Here is a chart with HIP score equivalencies between several organizations. Unfortunately, GF doesn't appear, so from an organization not compared there: https://barkingbunch.nl/galerij/hd-title.htm


Recommend OP see if the stud(s) or bitch(es) he or she is interested in is/are in PedigreeDatabase

by jillmissal on 29 October 2020 - 09:10

GSCat yes, I found the same thing. I've just never seen what the GF means in any equivalency chart so it's interesting.

Here's another example.

This dog on Working-dog.com

Same dog on PDB

Dog seems to have great elbows per the PDB listing. Why it would have "suspicion" on W-d.com is confusing. I would love to know what the GF means.

by GSCat on 30 October 2020 - 22:10

Looking at the comparison chart, OFA Good can be equivalent to FCI A2 or B1. B1 is called Transitional Case in FCI. I wonder if Suspicion is translation of/from/equivalent to Transitional Case so an OFA Good could be Suspicion. Working-dog domain name Registrant is DE, so this could simply be translation between 2 or 3 languages.


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