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by itsjustacolor on 12 March 2010 - 07:03

Any breed of dog can have a color that is not common. It all goes back to when the breed was being created for the first time. Every single breed of dog is a mix breed. The German Shepherd is a mix of using long-haired, short-haired, and wire-haired local herding and farm dogs from Wurtemberg, Thurginia, and Bavaria in 1882. Any one of those breeds that went into making the original GSD could have the piebald coloration. People who are clamming that they love the GSD breed but say the panda shepherd is ugly and not a true shepherd should not say they care for the breed if you care for the breed you would like to see the odd and unusual colors that may trace back to the original blood line of the shepherd. It is like with the white boxer. these rare colors happen with all breeds of dogs. They happen in the Akita with the blue brindle Akita. Red Rottweiler, Silver Labrador, Blue Spotted Dalmation, Fawnequin Great Dane, Sable Border Collie, lemon dalmatian, Red BostonTerrier, Blue Boxer these are just a few breeds that have occacional rare colors. that does not mean they are any less there breed. I believe the Panda Shepherd is a pure German Shepherd. Every person that has this rare color in a litter got DNA test on the dog. How can you argue with that.
 www.dogbreedinfo.com/p/pandashepherd.htm

Lief

by Lief on 12 March 2010 - 11:03

theres no such thing as a silver Weimeraner oh whoops I mean silver Labrador, Atypical colors cannot really be considered desirable and due to the lack of integrity of AKCs stud book you really can't blame people for being skeptical. And you really won't find any true fanciers of any breed who embrace atypical coloring you would probably  find more people who recoil in horror at the idea

by Bob McKown on 12 March 2010 - 12:03

It,s a undesirable trait that is ONLY pushed by puppy sellers and con men.

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 12 March 2010 - 13:03

Of course all purebred dogs are mixed breeds, that's not the point.  When any breed was developed, certain traits were desired for a specific function.  When the desired traits were produced with regularity, they were "fixed".  So, when odd colors arise, as well as any other fault, the dog itself should be welcomed.  But, that dog should never be bred to continue those faults.  Faults are a lack of the desired function, in one way or another.  There are those that argue this point endlessly and it SHOULD be moot.  Yes, these FAULTS will occur, but should never be DESIRABLE.  When some breed for "rare" traits, they are only doing it for the money.  Shoot the breeder, not the dog.

by TessJ10 on 12 March 2010 - 13:03

"Any breed of dog can have a color that is not common. It all goes back to when the breed was being created for the first time."

Of course.  Everybody knows this. 

"Every single breed of dog is a mix breed."


Wrong.  Every single breed of dog WAS at one time a mixed breed.

"The German Shepherd is a mix of using long-haired, short-haired, and wire-haired local herding and farm dogs from Wurtemberg, Thurginia, and Bavaria in 1882. Any one of those breeds that went into making the original GSD could have could have the piebald coloration."

Yes, and the GSD was created from those breeds to be a SEPARATE, DIFFERENT breed with its own  breed standard SEPARATE from them, as the GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG.  You want piebald, go to a piebald breed, which is NOT the standard for the GSD.  What's so hard to understand about that?  Piebald is NOT an acceptable color for the German Shepherd Dog  breed.  You want piebald, go to a breed where that is an acceptable or preferred color.

"People who are clamming that they love the GSD breed but say the panda shepherd is ugly and not a true shepherd should not say they care for the breed if you care for the breed you would like to see the odd and unusual colors that may trace back to the original blood line of the shepherd."

This is a ridiculous statement and simply not true.  If you care for the BREED you will breed to the STANDARD and not encourage throwbacks to the mixed breeds and other breeds.  This makes no sense. 





Lief

by Lief on 12 March 2010 - 14:03

I would be hard pressed to believe most of  these so called oddities arise from  some throwback to some long gone predecessor, more like overt evidence of lack of integirty of the pedigree


DuvalGSD

by DuvalGSD on 12 March 2010 - 15:03

The panda shepherds do look really nice, it just take some getting used to.......

by Bob McKown on 12 March 2010 - 15:03

Duval:

                  I told the same thing to the nudist colony I applied to, but they still turned me down on similar grounds. But i don,t think it had anything to do with color???

Lief

by Lief on 12 March 2010 - 17:03

But show me a Panda Shepherd with a legitimate pedigree that does not consist mainly of dogs that are obscure at best ,dogs with the owners last name etc  ,I had never heard of Panda  prior to this board but I can tell when I saw it I didn't say ''Wow thats cool'' I said WTF??  and to me these atypical colored dogs do not look true to type in any sense thus making me think  something isn't Kosher

by TessJ10 on 12 March 2010 - 17:03

"The panda shepherds do look really nice, it just take some getting used to......."

Doesn't matter.  Has nothing to do with it.  It's not the standard of the GSD.  That's all that matters.  It's not what I like, it's what is correct for the standard.  So no, I'm not going to be "getting used to" them anytime soon.  Panda shepherds need to "get used to" breeding correctly to the breed standard if they claim they love the breed.






 


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