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by Sunsilver on 25 February 2010 - 21:02
Read this interview with Temple Grandin for some unique insights into how dogs think and learn:
www.powells.com/blog/
www.powells.com/blog/
by Slamdunc on 25 February 2010 - 22:02
Sunsilver,
Thanks for the link. Very interesting. Isn't there a movie out about Temple Grandin right now? She has done some amazing things for animals.
Jim
Thanks for the link. Very interesting. Isn't there a movie out about Temple Grandin right now? She has done some amazing things for animals.
Jim
by Sunsilver on 25 February 2010 - 23:02
Yes, it's been aired on HBO a couple of times. I watched it, and it's pretty amazing what she's accomplished! She wasn't able to speak until she was 4 years old, and her mother was told to put her into an institution. She now has a PhD in animal science.
by mobjack on 26 February 2010 - 02:02
by Davren on 26 February 2010 - 02:02
I remember our horse/cattle vet talking about her and the cattle chute changes due to her research. Very interesting article. Thank you for sharing.
by Pharaoh on 26 February 2010 - 03:02
Great article.
Hope I can get to see the film.
Michele
Hope I can get to see the film.
Michele
by Mindhunt on 26 February 2010 - 03:02
Temple Grandin: When a new dog came into the neighborhood that was young, the older dogs put him in his place and taught him social manners. We didn't have all these problems with dog bites. We had three simple rules we learned as kids: Do not bother a dog when he's eating. Don't poke him while he's sleeping — let sleeping dogs lie. You could call him to you, but don't go up and poke him. And don't pet strange dogs you don't know. We followed those rules, and we didn't have all these behavior problems.
The other problem we've got today is people deliberately breeding criminal animals. If they ban pit bulls, there will be some other kind of dog that they're going to totally ruin. It's just criminal, what some people are doing. They're deliberately breeding dogs for very aggressive traits. I heard one horror story from a shelter where there were a whole bunch of puppies that were eight weeks old, from a drug dealer's big-headed pit bull, and every single one of them was sent back for biting. That's genetics.
Jill: New research shows that wolves (and dogs are genetic wolves) live in families, not packs, in the wild. How does that research change the way we should look at advice from someone like Cesar Millan, who says the pet owner should be the alpha of the pack?
Grandin: I think Cesar Millan is right when you get into highly artificial situations, exactly like what he has down there in his dog psychology center, when you have a whole bunch of unrelated individuals living together. Then he's probably right.
There are some things he does very well. I do not like what Cesar does with fear-based behaviors. I've seen some really nasty episodes where he tried to force dogs to do stuff they were afraid of, and it did not work. Where he seems to work well is with the very confident breeds of dog — the Rottweilers, etc. He can be their leader in a situation where it's not a family, and it works. But I think we have created so many problems with animals.
I like the above part. I have read her books and don't agree with some of her ideas about dog behavior, but she does have many insights that have helped me with animals in general and my dogs in particular. I have a friend with Aspergers and Grandin's books have given me some insight into my wonderful friend's quirks. Definately a must read set of books
The other problem we've got today is people deliberately breeding criminal animals. If they ban pit bulls, there will be some other kind of dog that they're going to totally ruin. It's just criminal, what some people are doing. They're deliberately breeding dogs for very aggressive traits. I heard one horror story from a shelter where there were a whole bunch of puppies that were eight weeks old, from a drug dealer's big-headed pit bull, and every single one of them was sent back for biting. That's genetics.
Jill: New research shows that wolves (and dogs are genetic wolves) live in families, not packs, in the wild. How does that research change the way we should look at advice from someone like Cesar Millan, who says the pet owner should be the alpha of the pack?
Grandin: I think Cesar Millan is right when you get into highly artificial situations, exactly like what he has down there in his dog psychology center, when you have a whole bunch of unrelated individuals living together. Then he's probably right.
There are some things he does very well. I do not like what Cesar does with fear-based behaviors. I've seen some really nasty episodes where he tried to force dogs to do stuff they were afraid of, and it did not work. Where he seems to work well is with the very confident breeds of dog — the Rottweilers, etc. He can be their leader in a situation where it's not a family, and it works. But I think we have created so many problems with animals.
I like the above part. I have read her books and don't agree with some of her ideas about dog behavior, but she does have many insights that have helped me with animals in general and my dogs in particular. I have a friend with Aspergers and Grandin's books have given me some insight into my wonderful friend's quirks. Definately a must read set of books
by Jon luc on 26 February 2010 - 03:02
Very interesting, I like the part about seeking. With dogs and horses I
think sniffing is not optional. The Oldfactory nerves create a highly
developed sence of dog therapy, to allow them time to go outside
and sniff in the yard. Im very serious. It calms them.
think sniffing is not optional. The Oldfactory nerves create a highly
developed sence of dog therapy, to allow them time to go outside
and sniff in the yard. Im very serious. It calms them.
by Sunsilver on 26 February 2010 - 05:02
She's going to be speaking at the International Association of Canine Professionals annual conference in Texas in March, and I'm seriously considering going!
by Mystere on 27 February 2010 - 15:02
Wonderful! I also have read her book and been tremendously impressed. I am as interested in Grandin herself and autism, as what she has to say. ¶There are so many permutations with autism and she is an example of just how much more we have to learn about ourselves, much less dogs. Ever wonder what happened to those with Asperger Syndrome even 50 years ago?
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