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by beetree on 12 February 2010 - 13:02
"As Monsanto prepares to unleash it's latest GM corn supergroup, a recent study in the International Journal of Biological Sciences has shown that the crops caused kidney and liver damage, and some heart, adrenal, spleen and blood damage and rats. Yet the corn has been approved for human consumption in the U.S
Several countries in Europe, such as Germany and France, have already banned GM crops. But the U.S. FDA has done us a potential dangerous disservice by simply taking Monsanto's word that their GM crops are safe and not doing any testing!"
www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
If they are feeding GM corn to us, you can be sure they are feeding it to our dogs.
Well, dear posters, what to do you think? Is this a real concern, or really just a scary story?
Several countries in Europe, such as Germany and France, have already banned GM crops. But the U.S. FDA has done us a potential dangerous disservice by simply taking Monsanto's word that their GM crops are safe and not doing any testing!"
www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm
If they are feeding GM corn to us, you can be sure they are feeding it to our dogs.
Well, dear posters, what to do you think? Is this a real concern, or really just a scary story?
by Bob McKown on 12 February 2010 - 13:02
Beetree:
Just more proof that we die a litle more each day.
Just more proof that we die a litle more each day.
by beetree on 12 February 2010 - 13:02
I don't want to hurry it along Bob. LOL Hey, there are lots of dogs dying of cancers of spleen, liver, etc. and nobody wants to bring this up, it could be a reason why, so shouldn't it be thoroughly researched before we find out later, how much has been screwed up. Big business has silenced the fact we are being used as guinea pigs!
by hodie on 12 February 2010 - 20:02
The fact is that human beings, regular folks like you and me, have been manipulating plant and animal genomes for thousands of years. What makes this of interest is that in the interest of finding pest resistant varieties (some exist naturally and they are trying to enhance that so they can use less pesticides in the fields and that plants are resistant to certain types of insects and pathogens that are responsible for crop loss. This also includes looking for genomes or specific genes that confer drought resistance and resistance to other environmental problems, like cold. Certain genes are manipulated to combine genomic material where it would not otherwise appear (at least not yet). In this ONE study, it is suggested that there might be a problem with a particular hybrid genome. if there are other studies that confirm this, the variety won't be used.
As for the problem with corn, a far more serious and more likely issue is that corn, like other things, can be contaminated with fungus (and pesticide residue if not handled properly in the field). This includes aflatoxin which can kill and for which there is a test required and a standard as to how much contaminant is allowed, both in corn used for animals and humans. In most recalls involving corn, and peanuts, for example, it was aflatoxin that was at fault. It is also ubiquitous in the environment.
Personally, I would not get too excited about this single study just yet. On both sides of the coin, there are reasons people want to immediately assume there is some huge conspiracy going on. The fact is, the race is on to provide more crops and food for more people and provide varieties that will feed populations who are, as of now, dying of starvation. As more and more GM crops are grown, even under experimental conditions, there is a risk, and possibly some benefit, to the transfer of GM genes to "native" plants. If one studies the history of any given crop, one will immediately recognize that such modifications have been going on, without thought or knowledge, since man first practiced agriculture.
As for the problem with corn, a far more serious and more likely issue is that corn, like other things, can be contaminated with fungus (and pesticide residue if not handled properly in the field). This includes aflatoxin which can kill and for which there is a test required and a standard as to how much contaminant is allowed, both in corn used for animals and humans. In most recalls involving corn, and peanuts, for example, it was aflatoxin that was at fault. It is also ubiquitous in the environment.
Personally, I would not get too excited about this single study just yet. On both sides of the coin, there are reasons people want to immediately assume there is some huge conspiracy going on. The fact is, the race is on to provide more crops and food for more people and provide varieties that will feed populations who are, as of now, dying of starvation. As more and more GM crops are grown, even under experimental conditions, there is a risk, and possibly some benefit, to the transfer of GM genes to "native" plants. If one studies the history of any given crop, one will immediately recognize that such modifications have been going on, without thought or knowledge, since man first practiced agriculture.
by LAVK-9 on 12 February 2010 - 20:02
http://www.michaelpollan.com/write.php
You might be interested in this.Michael Pollan says "corn" is a 4 letter word.My mom has read many of his books and she doesn't eat corn anymore and has changed her life style and for being 65 she looks like she is in her 40s to 50s.
Food for thought.....ok bad pun.
~L~
You might be interested in this.Michael Pollan says "corn" is a 4 letter word.My mom has read many of his books and she doesn't eat corn anymore and has changed her life style and for being 65 she looks like she is in her 40s to 50s.
Food for thought.....ok bad pun.
~L~
by beetree on 12 February 2010 - 20:02
There is the fact that GM corn has already messed up the natural order of things, first off the top of my head has to do with Monarch butterflies and messing up their migration. Also, you mention the fact that GMO's can not be contained. These strains will contaminate crops wether one likes it or not. Think what that means if you are trying to make a living as an organic farmer. It's what we don't know about GMO's that worries me. If they are so sure nothing isgoing to be the matter they should be eager to prove it. I lack faith that the driving force to this science isn't interested in how GMO's fit into the bigger picture.
Also big on my suspect list of not wanting to be a guinea pig, anything having to do with SOY. You can pretty much know all your Soy is genetically modified. And see how they push it on women of a certain age, LOL
I do beleve this issue has been squashed for quite sometime and I am not a sky is falling, conspiracy lurks around the corner type of gal. I say this because years ago I subscribed to OG magazine and they were big on being a watchdog for the little guy with science and facts, then next thing you knew, all the outspoken editiors disappeared one by one, and the concern for an unproven embracing of GMO's by Monsanto continues, unchallenged. That magazine now sucks, by the way.
Also big on my suspect list of not wanting to be a guinea pig, anything having to do with SOY. You can pretty much know all your Soy is genetically modified. And see how they push it on women of a certain age, LOL
I do beleve this issue has been squashed for quite sometime and I am not a sky is falling, conspiracy lurks around the corner type of gal. I say this because years ago I subscribed to OG magazine and they were big on being a watchdog for the little guy with science and facts, then next thing you knew, all the outspoken editiors disappeared one by one, and the concern for an unproven embracing of GMO's by Monsanto continues, unchallenged. That magazine now sucks, by the way.
by Red Sable on 12 February 2010 - 20:02
I don't eat corn anymore either, and I look like I'm in my 40's too! 
by Keith Grossman on 12 February 2010 - 20:02
Corn on the cob...yum!
by beetree on 12 February 2010 - 23:02
Then come by in the summer time, I grow my own Silver Queen. Best tasting corn ever. Tastes so good you don't need butter, heck, you don't even need to boil it if you just can't wait and are really hungry. And no spliced genes from a pig or sea urchin! I promise.
by Mystere on 13 February 2010 - 00:02
I NEVER feed my dogs any food with corn in it and never have. I am allergic, or so the allergist tells me. That does not stop me from eating popcorn. Do I notice a difference? Sure do! I swell up like a sponge, and if I have any other allergen the same day (like strawberries), I end up with an asthma attack. So, I avoid corn when possible. But, I gotta have it at the movies! 
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