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by tarekallam on 30 January 2010 - 17:01

A friend of mine has imported a GSD female of 2 years old. She is very shy & only friendly to him & his son.

She gets scared on hearing any noises, sudden movements  etc...

She got pregnant & when she gave birth she ate her puppies one by one immediately upon delivering them. My friend who witnessed the incident is currently panicked & is asking as to whether he can retry breeding her & / or she will repeat eating her litter every time?

Has anybody experienced this? Is there any solution treatment for the female not to repeat the incident?

Could you please help him if possible.

Regards


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 30 January 2010 - 17:01

Sounds like nature's way of telling him that he shouldn't be breeding this weak tempered dog.

by eichenluft on 30 January 2010 - 18:01

Exactly what Keith said.  Pet, spay her and place her with a person who can help her live her life without fear.  Pitiful.

I would never ever breed a female with knowledge that she wasn't a good mother, for any reason.

molly

LAVK-9

by LAVK-9 on 30 January 2010 - 18:01

With the temperament that she has...I wouldn't have bred her in the first place!! The pups tend to take the behavior of the mother and that would mean more dogs that had bad nerves like her. Was she a titled dog? I can't see it being so if it has such bad nerve....then again yes I can. As I have seen some weak nerve dogs out there that have titles and shouldn't.
Don't breed her again.JMO


Pharaoh

by Pharaoh on 30 January 2010 - 18:01

This was nature's cruel way of correcting a mistake. 

We love our dogs and accept their faults.  Of course not every dog is perfect but in German Shepherds it is even more important that temperament be right for breeding.  Not only is a flawed temperament passed on to the puppies through genetics, she is imprinting them as she cares for them.  I have read studies that say the mother is more of an influence on the puppies than the father for this reason. I think I remember something in Willis's book The Genetics of the German Shepherd about this.

What you want from a pair of dogs you are going to breed is strong nerves and courage.  Fearful, shy dogs are the ones who bite because they are scared - fear biter.

I am not a breeder, I just read a lot.  There are many experienced breeders on this board who can tell you from their personal experience.

Tell your friend to get her spayed and give her a wonderful life.

Michele



Dragongsd

by Dragongsd on 30 January 2010 - 18:01

Sadly proubably the reason they sold her..........

nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 30 January 2010 - 21:01

The first time she displayed the temperament fault, I would have been on the phone to the person I bought her from. Sadly enough, we just assume that if we import a dog, we are getting "better" than what we can buy here in the states. This is a perfect example proving this isn't true.  Does your friend have any idea what is not acceptable for breeding rergardless of where it comes from?  Didn't anyone see this animal's character BEFORE he bred it?  Was he given any advice BEFORE breeding? I am sure he was proud to show his "import" to others, as I am sure anyone would have been.  Poor guy, seems someone should have said someting to him...

by tarekallam on 30 January 2010 - 22:01

I have just been told that some sound minded females with normal temperament can also eat their litters. Also some females with same teperament as our case do not eat their litters & they can be very good mothers.

Please also comment on that.

Regards


LAVK-9

by LAVK-9 on 30 January 2010 - 22:01

Usually an animal eats it's young if there is something wrong with it.To go through the WHOLE litter....I have never heard of that. I have to agree with some of the other people that had commented that I would have called the breeder and asked what is up with the tmperament of the dog....it isn't right to have that. I think he got taken and most likely sold it cause she was that way.

by beetree on 30 January 2010 - 22:01

Some bitches just should not be mothers. Weak temperament mothers can pass on that trait. So if you know your even temperament bitch eats her pups, don't breed her. If you have a weak temperament bitch, don't breed her. Only breed correct temperament bitches who do not eat their pups. At least that is what I have learned from reading the PDB.





 


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