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by Bob McKown on 05 January 2010 - 13:01


There has been alot of talk latley about hard males with fight drive which we all know is good for the breed but what about the other contributing factor the female, should,nt there be just as much attention to choosing of the breeding bitch? or titeling them as far as the 3 goes it seems a great focus on titled males but less on the titeld female? Lets see some pics or info on your breeding females that bring alot to the table also if you could set your way back machines what female would you choose for breeding if you were able?.


by gucci on 05 January 2010 - 13:01

Very good point Bob...

DebiSue

by DebiSue on 05 January 2010 - 13:01

I agree with you Bob.  I've made the decision not to breed my bitch unless I can title her in Schutzhund.  If she doesn't have the drive or ability what's the point.  She's put together well, she's pretty and so far she has plenty of drive.  I want to see if she has that extra something to contribute.  We're a couple of years away from knowing how that's going to turn out.  Hopefully I won't hold her back!
Deb

steve1

by steve1 on 05 January 2010 - 13:01

Hi Bob
Never a truer word spoken, Give me a really top Female any day of the week over a equal Male
Why because the Golden Pup is born of the Female and you see often lesser amount Females working than Males and if you get a good one then you are in Clover,
There are plenty of Top Males to Choose from as a possible suitor to your Female but not the other way around
Two Modern day Females i really Like is FLIPSY von der MOHNWIESE she is nest Sister to EROS G Father of my IZZY
the other Female which i absolutely love is Mother of IZZY
BABSI von SPITZBUBEZWINGER ScH111  IPO 111  VH1 KKL11 for life she has everything one can look for in a Female
Strong, Bites as hard as most Males Very Very Fast, Strong Nerves but a social Dog
That is why i waited for her to come into Heat and the choice of Male for her was a good part mine and i am glad it turned out so
Steve1

Mystere

by Mystere on 05 January 2010 - 14:01

Catja v Kirchenholz, long-dead now, but produced a couple of BSP participants in each of the (only) three or 4 litters she had. The other is Forma v Karthago.

by Bob McKown on 05 January 2010 - 15:01

I,ve always liked Esthera Van Tiekerhook if I had my say I,ve seen videos of her work and I liked what she produced she was Koos Hassings Foundation bitch.

by Nans gsd on 05 January 2010 - 15:01

The female's in the GSD breed are truly underestimated;  if you study the genetics of dog breeding;  you will find that a very hgh percentage of the attributes given to the puppies comes from the mother;  however, I have learned in this breed thatmore warrant has been given to the males?  Why?  I  believe that they have more opportunity to compete as the bitches  born and raised in Germany have been bred by the time they are 2 years old and only have completed their SCH l titles and then keep being bred.  When do they have time and conditioning for competing?  When a bitch is bred she is out of condition for 6 months;  then when ready to compete is almost ready to be bred again (that is in Germany and othe countries).   

I would hope that our US people give their bitches at least a year between litters (or more) to let them rest and do their work and compete or whatever their planned venue(s).  I feel the strength of any breeding program is only as good as the foundation bitch.  Any good male and bring SOMETHING to the table but the bitch holds the golden outcome of her progeny.


by Elite k9 on 05 January 2010 - 15:01

Thats the smartest thing any one but on hear i spend more time with my females i have a shz2 dog at 3years old but is really to hard for it she is more of a police style man killer

by Elite k9 on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

Thats the smartest thing any one but on hear i spend more time with my females i have a shz2 dog at 3years old but is really to hard for it she is more of a police style man killer

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

Of course having good foundation bitches is important but the genetic attributes inherited by any progeny are influenced equally by the sire and dam.  The reason that the males of any breed are more influential should be obvious; not only can they be bred while actively showing and training, a given male can potentially produce hundreds of times as many progeny as any given female.





 


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