What would you think? - Page 1

So in the past I checked out a local SchH club around here.......considered it, but ended up working my dog with someone else.  On first arrival, everyone was there, walking their dogs around, everything was good.  And then I saw them bring out one of the dogs.  The dog is titled, a SchH 3.  However he is now 9, and when they first started working with him he wouldn't listen to a thing they told him to do.  He had a prong collar on, and they gave him extremely harsh corrections, one after another, at least 10 in a row at times and numerous other ones at other times, and it looked like they even kicked him and then racked him at one point and laughed.  The guy claimed the dog couldn't feel pain, and he wished he would have brought his shock collars with him.  And went on to talk about how grand they were.  Just listening to this guy talking to everyone, he was so arrogant and so high up on his ego.  Maybe a good trainer? I don't know, but all I saw was crap when I was there.  I remember thinking.....is this what my dog will go through being here?  So I only returned one more time to that club, and never came back.  I don't know, to me that seemed a little too harsh,  correct and knock the crap out of a dog, and rack him one good time and brag about it and your electric collars and about using them.  For long time trainers I could see many areas with their dogs not working that they needed to work on, older dogs......but hey they're "professionals" These are dogs they have had since puppies too.  So what would you guys think, or do, if you came to a club that was new to you and saw that?  I'm working Anubis with a different person in protection work, and don't even go to a club.  He's doing great, and getting a good foundation in everything.  As will the next dog I get coming up.  I had considered pulling out my camera and recording them while they were working that dog, but ended up not doing it.  Anyway, just wanting to know what you guys would have done or said in that situation.  This was a good long while ago, but I see the head of this club all the time still.

I've been to a club where I didn't agree with their training methods and decided I didn't want to be associated with them.  I didn't want people to think I used the same training methods on my dogs.  The best thing to do is to check out a club several times with out your dog and see if you agree with their philosophy of training.  If you don't like what you see just don't go back like you did.  I can't comment on the training without having seen it first hand, but it doesn't sound so good.  If you aren't comfortable with the training find a new place to train.

Jim

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That unfortunate dog is 9 years old...maybe, if he'd been born today, he'd have had an easier life. When I think of all the dogs I jerked around 30 years ago to "teach" them to heel....OMG! We were shitheads! We've come a long way, most of us, even if my current dog IS a stubborn beast that needs corrections still. Well, she is almost 7. My next puppy will have a much happier start, and maybe it won't actually be obedience so much as full cooperation by the time the new baby is fully trained. Just think of how much the techniques we learn in seminars have changed in 10 years! What a relief.

VomMarischal I agree completely.  

 

Clifford I hesitate to say, I just wanted to know opinions.....I'm not sure I want to bring out the name of this guy and start a commotion.