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anniedfw

by anniedfw on 19 September 2009 - 19:09

I adopted a 5 yr. old pure bred GSD from a rescue.  He is very loving and gentle.  He has never shown any agression to any of the family and is not protective with his food.  This is all so very good and is what I love about him, his gentle nature.  My concern is that he shows no interest in protecting the home.  He never barks at the door when a stranger knocks and when I open the door he just sits straight up behind me and looks out.  I have had the cable guy  come over and it didn't even phase him.  Our apartment technician came over when we were not home and said he was very gentle  (he has met this tech in the past in my presence and has been petted by him).  He only barks when he sees other dogs and wants to play with them.  I do not want an agressive dog but I would like to be warned when someone is at the front door.  He is a gorgeous GSD male and weighs 92lbs. and his looks do intimidate but in reality he is the most friendliest and loving dog that I have ever had.  My poodle and lhasa poo I had before were very protective and had a heart of a lion.  I love my dog and I will keep him for life, I just want to know if I could count on him if we are ever threatend or endanger.

rainforestscouts

by rainforestscouts on 19 September 2009 - 19:09

Don't count on it, but a visual deterrent is often all you need.

RFS

mollyandjack

by mollyandjack on 19 September 2009 - 20:09

I agree with RFS, because it's extremely difficult to say even with trained dogs.
Most people (lazy cowards) who would threaten your home, etc. are looking for an easy target. Find someone to teach your dog to bark. Pretty much any dog can be taught to bark at an intruder. I know that if I were given to criminal activity, the sound/sight of a +90 lb dog barking would make me choose a different (easier) target.

Onyxgirl

by Onyxgirl on 19 September 2009 - 20:09

Your barking dog may give you the time to grab your gun and protect him!

Prager

by Prager on 19 September 2009 - 21:09

To anniedfw :
I train "real" dogs for decades. I do not want to give you hard time, but let me tell you that in described situations, you were setting yourself up for major disaster. What I mean is what would you do if this, to you unknown dog, actually would "protect" you against your cable guy!?! If you decide to train your dog for any level of protection (even just barking), you would have to absolutely avoid such situations. Properly trained PP dog will warn you against strangers coming to your house and will shut down and deffuse when told so. Dog must not be "under control" and in attack mode if you want him to be friendly with a person. He must be defused and in his mind accepting such person as a friend> GSD are great for that thanks to their discriminativnes and ability to difuse if properly trined. There is a lot to train pp a dog and you must hire knowledgeable trainer who is familiar in prey and defense training in your area. This also presents problem because there are many self proclaimed experts who can cause a disaster with your dog. 
Properly trained dog must be 100% sociable, alert on command, attack on command on any passive none trainer/decoy person in strange environment and without equipment. Only clue must be the your command and nothing else. He must protect his territory/your house when stranger brakes in without command. He needs to "out" and diffuse when he is told to and accept the stranger as a friend.
If your dog can do all that, not speaking of obedience and 10s -100s of other tings than your dog will protect you. 
 Prager (Hans)
http://www.alpinek9.com

 


Char G

by Char G on 19 September 2009 - 22:09

I just recently lost my "big guy".. a massive 150lb GSD that was the happiest, most non-offensive dog on the planet. As big as he was, he was just as gentle as a dog could get. One night, a punk kid that was kind of a stalker of my eldest daughter, tried letting himself and a couple friends in our house without permission.. well, that gentle giant of a dog stepped in between me and that kid and nearly gelded him. After a very loud snarl and one snap of those massive jaws at that kids crotch, the kid backed out and any and all signs of his cocky attitude were GONE. That kid never came back to the house either.
Don't think because they don't bark that they don't know what's going on or who they should be wary of.

Prager

by Prager on 19 September 2009 - 22:09

There is a difference between protective and protection trained dog. I may be protective of my family, but I am much more effective if I have black belt in JUDO.  You can rely on protection trained dog more then on protective dog.
TRAIN YOUR DOG! Trained dog (properly) is also generally safer dog than dog which is only protective.

Prager (Hans)
http://www.alpinek9.com


Char G

by Char G on 19 September 2009 - 23:09

OBVIOUSLY a trained dog is safer... in all respects. However, just because the dog didn't get protective of  them when stranger came in the house doesn't mean the dog won't protect them should push come to shove. That was my point. Not all dogs need to have Shutzhund training to be good, protective dogs. My dog was trained to track and he could run down a ball better than a greyhound catches a rabbit. He was obedience trained but not put thru any Shutzhund training. He was a GREAT dog that had fantastic instincts and insight into his owners feelings and that counts in a dog too.

Prager

by Prager on 19 September 2009 - 23:09

What is "push come to shove"?
Smiling stranger entering your house through unlocked back door dressed like a cable guy and going through your drawers?
Think about it . Yes almost any dog will protect in some situations to lesser or greater degree,  but only properly trained dog will be reliable in his protection. And the question was:"....I just want to know if I could count on him if we are ever threatened or endangered." The question was about reliability.
Pager (Hans)


by SitasMom on 19 September 2009 - 23:09

Hans you have a point there.........

My little Sita (52lbs full grown) has already proven that whe will giver her life for mine.........She has moxie, and I love her for it. I would be dead right now if not for her.





 


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