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by steve1 on 22 March 2010 - 16:03
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Stop twisting things about it will not work with me, It was me who said you could not compete with mixed breeds in Belgium you know that full well you are thinking you are a smart ass well you may be the second bit but you are not Smart,
So go and play games with yourself you are becoming a little boring with your sarcasm, On the 19th March i mentioned getting these mixed breeds reg in the country they were born
and i said it was unlikely they could compete in Sports
Wrestle man says below that post that you only need to look at the scores etc of both pedigreed and crossbreeds to know it works great and he Carry's on Scores on What if it is not in Sch or Ring sport
Hunter 20th March says you can do Sch with Mixed Breeds in the USA
I said fair enough
Pientie 21st March says you can compete with Mixed breeds in Holland in the sport of ScH
I said fair enough, but you cannot in Belgium, so where is the wrong and where am i rambling on Stay off the Bottle and read the posts
And if you read below these posts you will see that people do not believe what i say,
No Sport does not revolve around Belgium for you But in the country where you live that is if you are interested in it
I happen to live in Belgium and that is my interest, if you do not like seeing it mentioned then do not read it, that is simple enough, well it is for most people
Get a Real Dog
You keep on about this Bert Bellon whom you think i should have heard off and i do not know of him i have said that
As i have said i attened some 20 plus competitions a year and i have never heard his name mentioned
This coming Sunday is the first Belgian selectional trial for the WUSV, about 30 of the best dogs and handlers in Belgium will be competing I will take note to see if this Mr Bellon is one of those competitors
As for Belgian Ring Sports in Belgium No clubs are in my Province i told you that, They stay mostly in the Wallonie part of Belgium the French speaking side and i think there are about 13 such clubs, and no i have never been to one that is not my sport, Now are you satisfied
Now you can all post away i am off to the training Club, And all you Guys and the forum will disappear from my mimd i have more important things to do like training Izzy i imtend to get her BH just as she is old enough to take it
Steve1
Stop twisting things about it will not work with me, It was me who said you could not compete with mixed breeds in Belgium you know that full well you are thinking you are a smart ass well you may be the second bit but you are not Smart,
So go and play games with yourself you are becoming a little boring with your sarcasm, On the 19th March i mentioned getting these mixed breeds reg in the country they were born
and i said it was unlikely they could compete in Sports
Wrestle man says below that post that you only need to look at the scores etc of both pedigreed and crossbreeds to know it works great and he Carry's on Scores on What if it is not in Sch or Ring sport
Hunter 20th March says you can do Sch with Mixed Breeds in the USA
I said fair enough
Pientie 21st March says you can compete with Mixed breeds in Holland in the sport of ScH
I said fair enough, but you cannot in Belgium, so where is the wrong and where am i rambling on Stay off the Bottle and read the posts
And if you read below these posts you will see that people do not believe what i say,
No Sport does not revolve around Belgium for you But in the country where you live that is if you are interested in it
I happen to live in Belgium and that is my interest, if you do not like seeing it mentioned then do not read it, that is simple enough, well it is for most people
Get a Real Dog
You keep on about this Bert Bellon whom you think i should have heard off and i do not know of him i have said that
As i have said i attened some 20 plus competitions a year and i have never heard his name mentioned
This coming Sunday is the first Belgian selectional trial for the WUSV, about 30 of the best dogs and handlers in Belgium will be competing I will take note to see if this Mr Bellon is one of those competitors
As for Belgian Ring Sports in Belgium No clubs are in my Province i told you that, They stay mostly in the Wallonie part of Belgium the French speaking side and i think there are about 13 such clubs, and no i have never been to one that is not my sport, Now are you satisfied
Now you can all post away i am off to the training Club, And all you Guys and the forum will disappear from my mimd i have more important things to do like training Izzy i imtend to get her BH just as she is old enough to take it
Steve1
by MBPlayer on 22 March 2010 - 16:03
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Stop twisting things about it will not work with me, It was me who said you could not compete with mixed breeds in Belgium you know that full well you are thinking you are a smart ass well you may be the second bit but you are not Smart,
So go and play games with yourself you are becoming a little boring with your sarcasm,
WOW!!! Who is ARGUING that you can't use MIX breed dogs in Belgium? Everyone has said they use these dogs in Other countries Not Belgium. Talk about boring you don't comprehend to well once you get something stuck in your head.
On the 19th March i mentioned getting these mixed breeds reg in the country they were born
and i said it was unlikely they could compete in Sports
And then some people said they DO. It happens in Holland.
Wrestle man says below that post that you only need to look at the scores etc of both pedigreed and crossbreeds to know it works great and he Carry's on Scores on What if it is not in Sch or Ring sport
Hunter 20th March says you can do Sch with Mixed Breeds in the USA
I said fair enough
Pientie 21st March says you can compete with Mixed breeds in Holland in the sport of ScH
I said fair enough, but you cannot in Belgium, so where is the wrong and where am i rambling on Stay off the Bottle and read the posts
And if you read below these posts you will see that people do not believe what i say,
Your unbelieveable they don't believe what you say because OTHER countries NOT Belgium do Register and Compete with these animals. Are you missing that whole point? Stay off the bottle huh maybe you need some meds to keep things straight. Rambling is how you go on and on about the Sacred Land of Belgium and how they Don't allow mix breeds to compete or be registered. We all got that. Can you get that Other countries register and use these dogs?
No Sport does not revolve around Belgium for you But in the country where you live that is if you are interested in it
I happen to live in Belgium and that is my interest, if you do not like seeing it mentioned then do not read it, that is simple enough, well it is for most people
LMFAO Same goes for IF you don't like what the people are saying on this post Leave!!! We all know you don't Agree with the cross. Most on here said the same thing Except that THERE are people and places that DO Register these dogs and use them in Sch and other Sports that are similarly related. Anyway Steve have a Godo time at trainging and I hope that Izzy passes her BH with flying colors.
Stop twisting things about it will not work with me, It was me who said you could not compete with mixed breeds in Belgium you know that full well you are thinking you are a smart ass well you may be the second bit but you are not Smart,
So go and play games with yourself you are becoming a little boring with your sarcasm,
WOW!!! Who is ARGUING that you can't use MIX breed dogs in Belgium? Everyone has said they use these dogs in Other countries Not Belgium. Talk about boring you don't comprehend to well once you get something stuck in your head.
On the 19th March i mentioned getting these mixed breeds reg in the country they were born
and i said it was unlikely they could compete in Sports
And then some people said they DO. It happens in Holland.
Wrestle man says below that post that you only need to look at the scores etc of both pedigreed and crossbreeds to know it works great and he Carry's on Scores on What if it is not in Sch or Ring sport
Hunter 20th March says you can do Sch with Mixed Breeds in the USA
I said fair enough
Pientie 21st March says you can compete with Mixed breeds in Holland in the sport of ScH
I said fair enough, but you cannot in Belgium, so where is the wrong and where am i rambling on Stay off the Bottle and read the posts
And if you read below these posts you will see that people do not believe what i say,
Your unbelieveable they don't believe what you say because OTHER countries NOT Belgium do Register and Compete with these animals. Are you missing that whole point? Stay off the bottle huh maybe you need some meds to keep things straight. Rambling is how you go on and on about the Sacred Land of Belgium and how they Don't allow mix breeds to compete or be registered. We all got that. Can you get that Other countries register and use these dogs?
No Sport does not revolve around Belgium for you But in the country where you live that is if you are interested in it
I happen to live in Belgium and that is my interest, if you do not like seeing it mentioned then do not read it, that is simple enough, well it is for most people
LMFAO Same goes for IF you don't like what the people are saying on this post Leave!!! We all know you don't Agree with the cross. Most on here said the same thing Except that THERE are people and places that DO Register these dogs and use them in Sch and other Sports that are similarly related. Anyway Steve have a Godo time at trainging and I hope that Izzy passes her BH with flying colors.
by steve1 on 22 March 2010 - 22:03
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Here is one who will not be leaving this Forum under any circumstances, i would never give any the pleasure of that,
No words from anyone will make me do that I will continue to post as i feel is right i do not care one bit if you or anyone else who do not like what i say if the occasion arises that is I'm material to me, As you mention Izzy Yes, when she is 15 months old or so depending if i can get her into a trial then or soon after she will pass her BH and if she does not then i will give $500 to a Kids charity picked out by Stacy Ruiz Choice if she is agreeable that is how confident i am of the Pup and myself, and at 17 month old she will also be ScH1 and AD and i have no doubt she will be Sch3 by the age of around 20 months or so that is my aim and i usually do it if i say or think it, and thanks but i do not need any Luck,
Is this idle talk or boasting' no' it is not and it is not meant to be, in fact in a month she would be quite capable of passing her BH at 11 months old if she was allowed to take it and i really wish it was possible, That would not be too bad for someone who does not know how to train dogs as been told by many on this site, little do they know
This is my last post on this thread, but before i close it, this is to
Get a Real Dog
At the training Club tonight i did make some inquires about this fellow Bart, and i was told that it was not thought that he was into the ScH sport in any depth, But he was selling Sports Stuff etc but they could not be 100% it was correct, However they had not seen him competing and i certainly have not but that does not mean he is not, for i have no idea where he lives, However this coming Sunday as i said in my last post is the first Belgian Sectional Trial for the WUSV Belgian selection for that event
I thought there were around 30 entries but there is 36 entries instead i found that out this evening, I will check to see if he is competing and will tell you if he is, This is one trial i am looking forewards too Izzys Dad is competing in it
Steve1
Here is one who will not be leaving this Forum under any circumstances, i would never give any the pleasure of that,
No words from anyone will make me do that I will continue to post as i feel is right i do not care one bit if you or anyone else who do not like what i say if the occasion arises that is I'm material to me, As you mention Izzy Yes, when she is 15 months old or so depending if i can get her into a trial then or soon after she will pass her BH and if she does not then i will give $500 to a Kids charity picked out by Stacy Ruiz Choice if she is agreeable that is how confident i am of the Pup and myself, and at 17 month old she will also be ScH1 and AD and i have no doubt she will be Sch3 by the age of around 20 months or so that is my aim and i usually do it if i say or think it, and thanks but i do not need any Luck,
Is this idle talk or boasting' no' it is not and it is not meant to be, in fact in a month she would be quite capable of passing her BH at 11 months old if she was allowed to take it and i really wish it was possible, That would not be too bad for someone who does not know how to train dogs as been told by many on this site, little do they know
This is my last post on this thread, but before i close it, this is to
Get a Real Dog
At the training Club tonight i did make some inquires about this fellow Bart, and i was told that it was not thought that he was into the ScH sport in any depth, But he was selling Sports Stuff etc but they could not be 100% it was correct, However they had not seen him competing and i certainly have not but that does not mean he is not, for i have no idea where he lives, However this coming Sunday as i said in my last post is the first Belgian Sectional Trial for the WUSV Belgian selection for that event
I thought there were around 30 entries but there is 36 entries instead i found that out this evening, I will check to see if he is competing and will tell you if he is, This is one trial i am looking forewards too Izzys Dad is competing in it
Steve1
by MBPlayer on 22 March 2010 - 23:03
Steve,
You are a stand up guy for the 500$ offer. I never doubted your ability to get Izzy titled in whatever you decided to do with her. The only problem I had was about the topic and the original question. But best to just leave it alone. No one is getting anywhere. And I will never own one. We will all agree to disagree on many subjects I am sure. By the way I never said to leave the forum you add some lively discussions to say the least.
Matt
You are a stand up guy for the 500$ offer. I never doubted your ability to get Izzy titled in whatever you decided to do with her. The only problem I had was about the topic and the original question. But best to just leave it alone. No one is getting anywhere. And I will never own one. We will all agree to disagree on many subjects I am sure. By the way I never said to leave the forum you add some lively discussions to say the least.
Matt
by steve1 on 23 March 2010 - 07:03
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You finish off your post Matt. Are you Stacy's husband Matt who is supposed to be a friend of mine, Well i took you both to be a friend, It just shows you in this world with pen names you never know who you are posting or mailing too
You preach to me , yet you do not even Train German Shepherds or a Mali, in fact you do not even train any dog least ways that is what Stacy tells me, you briefly took over her Galan then ditched the Dog so she now has to carry on with him, You sure are some piece of work no mistake, You did not have the bottle to tell me but carried on preaching and in doing so made a fool of me, i bet you were laughing each time i posted,Good on you.
Yes, Matt you sure are not an honest stand up Guy, Big in stature you may be but as a human being you are one of the lowest i have come across to play tricks like that,
I am not so much mad at hearing it but Sad to think i have been taken in by people i thought a bit of, even though we probably would never meet
I guess this puts Stacy in an awkward position, As she mails me regular and we have become good friends,
However Stacy i do not put this on you and nothing has changed in that respect, you are married to the Guy, but you are you not him, However I am one disappointed fellow
I retract the Offer if i fail the BH with Izzy at 15 months old or there abouts of the $500 to a Kids Charity, I had even found out last night the date of a trial i could reach in a decent time, as they do BH very early in the mornings here.
However no one will ever know how she gets on for after hearing this it is time for me to leave the Forum i really do not have any trust in whom i may be talking to in the posts you Matt and others who wanted it will get your wish
If you are not Stacy's Husband Matt but another with the same name then i apologize profusely to you and to Stacy for a grave mistake
Steve1
by VomRuiz on 23 March 2010 - 08:03
Hi Steve,
I am glad that I emailed you earlier when all of this came out and we have it sorted out between you and me..
I was also sad when I read many of these posts and Matt and I have had it out over and over all day.
We ARE two different people and he knows very well how much I care about you and value our friendship, which will be through emails and phone calls now, Since I am done with this message baord too. I had a lot of fun here and met some really nice people.
I guess to some it was obvious exactly the kind of woman I am, and that MBPlayer was NOT me. And yes I am very sensitive and compassionate, but I also thought I had a thick skin. But I guess I'm not as hard as I thought I was.
Anyway, that's all I have to say.
I'm glad to know you Steve and have you as a friend
Stacy
I am glad that I emailed you earlier when all of this came out and we have it sorted out between you and me..
I was also sad when I read many of these posts and Matt and I have had it out over and over all day.
We ARE two different people and he knows very well how much I care about you and value our friendship, which will be through emails and phone calls now, Since I am done with this message baord too. I had a lot of fun here and met some really nice people.
I guess to some it was obvious exactly the kind of woman I am, and that MBPlayer was NOT me. And yes I am very sensitive and compassionate, but I also thought I had a thick skin. But I guess I'm not as hard as I thought I was.
Anyway, that's all I have to say.
I'm glad to know you Steve and have you as a friend
Stacy
by steve1 on 23 March 2010 - 09:03
Stacy
You have nothing to be sorry for you are not your husband and nothing changes between us, I still treat you as the friend i did before as if nothing has ever happened and between us it did not
To the other Guys on here and most certainly to the Girls i have enjoyed the bits of banter and the Talk over the time plus to some of the Guys it has been great having exchanges of views even to the ones i have not agreed with at times Carry on Lads the forum is a good place to learn and i do know you Guys will help a Novice Dog owner along the way if they need help thats the main thing about the forum and what makes it good
One last word to 'GET A REAL DOG' This morning i got the offical list of the entrants into the first Belgian Selectional Trial which is taking place this coming Sunday for the Guys to go forewards to this years WUSV
There are 36 entrants as i said last night but reading down the list this morning this Bert Bellon is not an entry into this big Trial so No' i still do not know of him
Best
Steve1
You have nothing to be sorry for you are not your husband and nothing changes between us, I still treat you as the friend i did before as if nothing has ever happened and between us it did not
To the other Guys on here and most certainly to the Girls i have enjoyed the bits of banter and the Talk over the time plus to some of the Guys it has been great having exchanges of views even to the ones i have not agreed with at times Carry on Lads the forum is a good place to learn and i do know you Guys will help a Novice Dog owner along the way if they need help thats the main thing about the forum and what makes it good
One last word to 'GET A REAL DOG' This morning i got the offical list of the entrants into the first Belgian Selectional Trial which is taking place this coming Sunday for the Guys to go forewards to this years WUSV
There are 36 entrants as i said last night but reading down the list this morning this Bert Bellon is not an entry into this big Trial so No' i still do not know of him
Best
Steve1
by michael49 on 23 March 2010 - 15:03
Anybody see any mali or dutch influence in this dog.
by HBFanatic on 23 March 2010 - 15:03
I have mixed feelings about crossbreeding anything. Mainly because I am a traditionalist to the core.
But then, I would take a pup from a gsd/mal cross in a heartbeat if I thought it will bring to the table what I want.
If I did not know any better (maybe I don't? LOL) I would swear someone bred a kangaroo into my dog with all her jumping ability. And you know, it suits me fine and I love it so, can you find me another one like it?!
Sarcasm by the way...
I think we also have to look at the fact that all CURRENTLY established breeds started as cross bred mutts.
I totally agree that there is probably two mindsets. One being to take several generations of known traits to see where it will go down the road. And the once for a particular purpose breedings.
Far from me for being the one to judge. But I think like with any breeding, it should be done selectively and cautiously by folks that have a clue and the commitment to place the pups and make sure they are in capable hands. By the way, I had personal experience watching a few gsd/mal crosses being trained. And personally, I liked them quite a bit.
But then, I would take a pup from a gsd/mal cross in a heartbeat if I thought it will bring to the table what I want.
If I did not know any better (maybe I don't? LOL) I would swear someone bred a kangaroo into my dog with all her jumping ability. And you know, it suits me fine and I love it so, can you find me another one like it?!
Sarcasm by the way...
I think we also have to look at the fact that all CURRENTLY established breeds started as cross bred mutts.
I totally agree that there is probably two mindsets. One being to take several generations of known traits to see where it will go down the road. And the once for a particular purpose breedings.
Far from me for being the one to judge. But I think like with any breeding, it should be done selectively and cautiously by folks that have a clue and the commitment to place the pups and make sure they are in capable hands. By the way, I had personal experience watching a few gsd/mal crosses being trained. And personally, I liked them quite a bit.
by vonissk on 23 March 2010 - 16:03
Several years ago I bought a book called " The Malinois" written by Jan Kaldenbach, who is a retired Lt. of the Zaanstad PD in the Netherlands. I was surprised to find out how much he focused on cross breeding Mals and how many pics there were of crossbred ones in there. Taking directions from the book I decided to try crossing a GSD/Mal and man what a mix. They were all firecrackers. I had a hard time placing them but the ones I did place were much loved dogs. The one female I kept back was very civil and everyone in town was scared to death of her. Would I ever do it again? NO. Too much dog for me. But I can see why people would. They were beautiful and had nothing but brains and drive.
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