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by steve1 on 14 February 2010 - 21:02
Mindhunt
Well that is what you have been bought up with Guns and other weapons but it does not solve much i think you still get the same crime But the difference is you can shoot the one who does it to you or stick a knife in him whatever the case is and walk away a free man
Now for instance in Belgium if you kill someone, and you can get away say out of the country and stay away for 20 years then you can come back and live there again a free man, Countries have different strange cultures
Regards the Visa's Yes, since the last time that Guy had a Home made Bomb strapped to him on the aircraft landing in the USA it has got a lot harder to even get into the country, and it is not so easy you have to apply for a Visa they want the address of where you are staying, how long for when you get there, the fight number you are travelling how long you will be staying and the flight number back out of the USA. plus a lot of personal details
I can see where they are coming from but it is a one way thing so over here in Europe they should make the people travelling from the USA go through the same procedure to fly anywhere into Europe, then no one is treated any different from anyone else
The worst of it is i was only coming over for no more than a weekend
Steve1
Well that is what you have been bought up with Guns and other weapons but it does not solve much i think you still get the same crime But the difference is you can shoot the one who does it to you or stick a knife in him whatever the case is and walk away a free man
Now for instance in Belgium if you kill someone, and you can get away say out of the country and stay away for 20 years then you can come back and live there again a free man, Countries have different strange cultures
Regards the Visa's Yes, since the last time that Guy had a Home made Bomb strapped to him on the aircraft landing in the USA it has got a lot harder to even get into the country, and it is not so easy you have to apply for a Visa they want the address of where you are staying, how long for when you get there, the fight number you are travelling how long you will be staying and the flight number back out of the USA. plus a lot of personal details
I can see where they are coming from but it is a one way thing so over here in Europe they should make the people travelling from the USA go through the same procedure to fly anywhere into Europe, then no one is treated any different from anyone else
The worst of it is i was only coming over for no more than a weekend
Steve1
by Mindhunt on 15 February 2010 - 00:02
Steve1, I think Sun Tzu said it best in "The Art of War". And I am paraphrasing since my book is still packed away.
Those who want peace must prepare for war
Also
He believed in preparation, not fighting. In fact, he felt that ample preparation would negate the need to fight. Never kill if you can save, never wound if you can heal. Victory through education, both your enemy and yourself.
Those who want peace must prepare for war
Also
He believed in preparation, not fighting. In fact, he felt that ample preparation would negate the need to fight. Never kill if you can save, never wound if you can heal. Victory through education, both your enemy and yourself.
by GSDSRULE on 15 February 2010 - 01:02
tntk9
If you would read the articles correctly you, you would notice the dog was NOT left unattended. The officers wife was at home & came outside shortly after the incident happend.
Not tntk9, but I ask again, why aren't these kennels LOCKED?
Why aren't they kenneled inside?
I can't count how many stories like this I have read and still no locks or inside kennels are used.
If you would read the articles correctly you, you would notice the dog was NOT left unattended. The officers wife was at home & came outside shortly after the incident happend.
Not tntk9, but I ask again, why aren't these kennels LOCKED?
Why aren't they kenneled inside?
I can't count how many stories like this I have read and still no locks or inside kennels are used.
by Slamdunc on 15 February 2010 - 01:02
I am tearing up my living room carpet tonight and putting in inside kennels. It is a little hard to see the TV through the chain link fencing, but I'm getting used to it.
Jim
Jim
by BabyEagle4U on 15 February 2010 - 01:02
* "If you would read the articles correctly you, you would notice the dog was NOT left unattended. The officers wife was at home & came outside shortly after the incident happend. " *
OMG
OMG
by Avery Hill Kennels on 15 February 2010 - 01:02
To funny slam dunk This does happen far more then I think people realize I know an office in Virginia he had his dual trained k-9 about 6 months and he escaped from his out door run and the officers daughter and a neighbor girl were playing and ridding bikes outside, and the k-9 chased neighbor girl and bit her and took off half of her back right calf. All while officer was home. So it does happen. The department made the officer return the dog(German shepherd) to training facility and he had to get a lab
not so much liability. I think every situation should be looked at on a individual bases and every one should remember sometimes SHIT just happens no matter how careful we all are, it is impossible to anticipate EVERYTHING that could happen .
This does happen far more then I think people realize I know an office in Virginia he had his dual trained k-9 about 6 months and he escaped from his out door run and the officers daughter and a neighbor girl were playing and ridding bikes outside, and the k-9 chased neighbor girl and bit her and took off half of her back right calf. All while officer was home. So it does happen. The department made the officer return the dog(German shepherd) to training facility and he had to get a labnot so much liability. I think every situation should be looked at on a individual bases and every one should remember sometimes SHIT just happens no matter how careful we all are, it is impossible to anticipate EVERYTHING that could happen .by Slamdunc on 15 February 2010 - 02:02
Averyhill,
How often does this happen where K9's get loose and bite kids? I really don't think it happens all that often. I have only heard of one in Virginia in the past 5 years or so. Where in VA did the situation you are referring to happen?
Jim
How often does this happen where K9's get loose and bite kids? I really don't think it happens all that often. I have only heard of one in Virginia in the past 5 years or so. Where in VA did the situation you are referring to happen?
Jim
by Avery Hill Kennels on 15 February 2010 - 03:02
Slamdunc, it was right outside of Bluefield Va. it was over ten years ago. (separate incident)About five years ago there was a plea on the local news were I live that an officers dog had escaped out of officers yard in the area and run away, and if anyone had any information on the return of this dog to call the local police or news(informing people DO NOT approach dog please call so and so if sited, also dual trained GSD) so yes it does happen!! Do I think this is a reason to discontinue use of PSD NO like I said above sometimes shit just happens.I did not give officers name nor training academy because I do not want to bring anyones name in this if interested on specifics PM me
by tuffscuffleK9 on 15 February 2010 - 04:02
I'm like Sunsilver, there are some serious questions that need to be answered before conclusions are drawn.
1. The one that bothers me the most is that a K9 got out of its kennel! I don't care if it is a GSD, MAL, or Lab it is a highly valuable, highly trained weapon. Some are dual-purpose and will bite while others like a Lab won't. But none the less they should be secured just as well as an officer's service weapon and if not the officer/dept has liability. Especially when it comes to the contact between a dog and a child, called attractive nuisance, because it is normal for a child in our society to expect a dog to be friendly.
2. The second is the age of these juveniles. They appeared to fully understand their actions. However, the question is how could they know they were being confronted by a trained police K9?
3. Third, while their actions were barbaric to say the least, had they known the dog was a K9 would they possibly fled in the car with their buddy while it appears they still had a chance? But, they did not have that info because the K9 was not secured!
4. The "eye witness" who was so far away he had to get his "binoculars" reported attacks on the dog that were extreme to say the least. An autopsy would have to show that amount of damage.
Questions, questions, questions, questions, questions????????????????????????
FACT: One Highly Trained Police Weapon Was Left Unsecured or Undersecured!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. The one that bothers me the most is that a K9 got out of its kennel! I don't care if it is a GSD, MAL, or Lab it is a highly valuable, highly trained weapon. Some are dual-purpose and will bite while others like a Lab won't. But none the less they should be secured just as well as an officer's service weapon and if not the officer/dept has liability. Especially when it comes to the contact between a dog and a child, called attractive nuisance, because it is normal for a child in our society to expect a dog to be friendly.
2. The second is the age of these juveniles. They appeared to fully understand their actions. However, the question is how could they know they were being confronted by a trained police K9?
3. Third, while their actions were barbaric to say the least, had they known the dog was a K9 would they possibly fled in the car with their buddy while it appears they still had a chance? But, they did not have that info because the K9 was not secured!
4. The "eye witness" who was so far away he had to get his "binoculars" reported attacks on the dog that were extreme to say the least. An autopsy would have to show that amount of damage.
Questions, questions, questions, questions, questions????????????????????????
FACT: One Highly Trained Police Weapon Was Left Unsecured or Undersecured!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Mindhunt on 15 February 2010 - 12:02
Oops Steve1, when I was typing my above response, it was a few comments ago, I hate the lag time on this thing (LOL)
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