Boys kill Elizabethton police dog

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by GSDtravels on 13 February 2010 - 18:02

You're the one who brought your dogs into the equation, not me. I'm not trying to say anything, I quoted your words.

by Mindhunt on 13 February 2010 - 19:02

JMO, there is much more to this story then reported so far. Without being there, I can't know what motivated the dog to bite. Did he bite because he felt threatened? Did he bite in response to attack? Did the boys accidentally shoot him (aim at buddy and miss, hit dog, not intending to hit dog)? Did they do something deliberate thinking they were adequately padded? Did they shoot the dog for fun thinking it wouldn't hurt the dog? How did the dog get out? Did the boys let him out? Was the kennel malfunctioning and the dog escaped? (I had my oldest male at a kennel down he road from his breeder, the kennel person left the latch undone and he escaped, thank goodness he ran to the breeder's front porch, needless to say, the kennel owner got an ear full and no repeat business). More questions then answers right now.

by Bob-O on 13 February 2010 - 22:02

Tennessee is known as a "one-bite State" whereas; if a dog bites someone (with reason or without reason), that dog is not necessarily sentenced to death. The owner can of course be held liable in both civil and criminal courts - depending on the circumstances. If the dog bites someone else, then the dog has no protection whatsoever.

As far as knives are concerned, there is generally not a problem with the State law as long as it is a smaller knife and not carried in an aggressive manner. Tennessee statutes do allow the carrying of a knife whose blade length does not exceed 4". Unlike a firearm, there is no minimum age for possesion of a knife. One is quite legal as long as he is not carrying it "for the purpose of going armed". Of course the knife (any size) cannot be carried in places such as State and Federal buildings, etc..

I, for one, tend to be heavily armed at all times when possible - that is my legal right. As a legally-armed citizen I must obey certain rules pertaining to sidearm carry, and of course I do. I truely feel that a well-armed society is a most safe and polite society. Now - back to the subject.

Personally I think there is a lot of fault to go around in this case. I still hope that the dog was not at fault initially, but we may never know. What we do know is this - four (4) boys were bitten by a police dog and they killed the dog - period. If the dog broke from his kennel then the owner/handler is greatly at fault. If the boys taunted the dog when he approached them, then they are at fault. If the kids were "roughhousing" with each other the dog may have alerted to this. I really do not think we will ever know the entire truth and it will be up to a jury to decide who shares which part of the burden at fault here.

In closing, I am keenly aware of how some teenage boys will "bully" a dog just to prove what a badass (stupidass) they are.

Best Regards,
Bob-O

by tntk9 on 13 February 2010 - 22:02

No matter what started it, the owner of the dog is responsible for the safety of the dog and the saftey of the public! Very tragic situation because of irresponsibility on the owners part.

by steve1 on 13 February 2010 - 23:02

tntk9
Yes, you are correct but my thoughts are what are 16 year olds doing carrying knives around with them For what reason would a person that age have the need to do so,
But i guess it is not illegal to do so in the USA, so if anyone gets into a bit of a argument they have the right to draw out the knife and stab the other person if they think fit, there is no other way it can be put
Yet People in some parts of the USA are banned for keeping a dog out doors in a sound kennel and Run where is the sense of values gone to, That is what i am getting at
Steve1

by MaggieMae on 13 February 2010 - 23:02

This is another article on it...........

www.starhq.com/news/html/news/articles/articles.asp

by tntk9 on 13 February 2010 - 23:02

I am not defending the boys or the dog. This is a very tragic situation for everyone involved. Regardless of what started it the owner of the dog was irresponsible in leaving the dog unattended while out of town. If the owner used proper judgement and properly boarded his dog this whole thing would have been avoided. Another sad situation where the animal paid the price.

by buckeyefan gsd on 13 February 2010 - 23:02

steve you have a real hard on for the usa
your statement about an argument is ludacris
we have the right to bear arms and it is fucking great
this story is tragic from every possible scenerio!!!!!!!

by GSDtravels on 14 February 2010 - 00:02

My father is 80. I recently asked him, now since he's gotten older does he still carry a gun. His reply was, "No, now I carry two!" And the gun debate is very, very old. I remember as a child putting stickers on my tackle box, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." I didn't really understand the real meaning at the time, but I'll fight for that right any day! I played with knives as a child, as did all of my friends and we all survived unscathed. We all had pocket knives and used them to dig, carve, cut, whatever. We never injured each other or animals and never used them as weapons. When you teach children the proper use of anything, it is much less dangerous. We had loaded guns in our house all the time and none of us, although properly schooled in the handling and use, would have ever dreamed of touching them unless we needed to use them. It's not the legal guns that cause problems, it's the use of guns by children and adults who have never been taught that, not only are they to be respected, but so is life. Most crimes are commited by those who have no respect for either. A dog, especially a GSD, could also be considered a weapon, it's simply a matter of respect and proper use!

by MaggieMae on 14 February 2010 - 00:02

The Key question is HOW did the dog get out of his Kennel? Escaped? Let Out?

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