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by darylehret on 05 April 2010 - 19:04
by VomMarischal on 05 April 2010 - 19:04
I think that is exactly the same with humans with ESP. They manage to be aware of what the rest of us see but don't register.
by Prager on 05 April 2010 - 19:04
I could have done it with 2 dogs in my life. Timber and Lady.
I would think the command, not just the word, but command. Yes I was strongly concentrating on "sending" the command to the dog . Dog usually responded in about 5 seconds.
Hans
by Prager on 05 April 2010 - 20:04
Then I take dogs hiking and to the creek and get them familiar with all new. Put them through stressful situations but make sure that they always win. I always take a dog along when I am driving.
Then I train them formal obedience and protection. But that is the smallest part of my relationship with the dog.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by Kalibeck on 05 April 2010 - 23:04
However, they all seem to have special senses...I truly think that their sense of smell & hearing is so acute they can smell & hear changes long before we do....& we emit different smells the minute we begin to think about something, as our neurochemistry begins the task of making muscles move, etc.. Our dogs pick up on that, as they can hear a car engine miles away, & know if it's the engine that takes their person away & back again. It does seem almost eerie, the things they can sense. My Kali knows when my blood sugar gets too low, & she's very consistant with it. People train dogs to sense when someone's going to have a seizure, & warn them in time to get to a safe place, before the seizure starts...how incredible is that? Beckett knew when my knee was hurting, after surgery, & was very clingy & protective until I was feeling better. Our dogs are a part of the family, we know them, & they know us, every little nuance. My little wacko, Ansgar, (which I'm sorry Hans, she does like to be in my lap, all 75 pounds of her) she will happily be with me on the deck or the patio, watching traffic on the road, & allow 99 of the cars to go by, & pick just 1 to jump up & bark at....is it making some weird noise that I can't hear? Are the people inside bad? Or angry? I guess I'll never know, after she starts barking at them, they sure don't stop! But that's the thing, I don't think we give our dogs credit for the amount of intelligence they possess. I so wish I could hear their thoughts & comprehend them...I think I understand them, so it would be nice to know if I am correct in my interpretation. And Darylehret(sp?), that song thing happens to me, too....is it our dental fillings? LOL!
jackie harris
edited for spelling
by darylehret on 06 April 2010 - 00:04
I doubt mine's in my teeth, but that reminds me of some propaganda I read the other day. I haven't verified any of this for truth to the claims....
BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE HEALTH BILLS REQUIRE THE MICROCHIPPING OF AMERICANS - 3/18/10
Required RFID implanted chip
Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 - The government will establish a
National Medical Device Registry. What does a National
Medical Device Registry mean?
National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare
Bill], pages 1001-1008:
(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical
device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
'registry') to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
outcomes data on each device that- ''(A) is or has been used
in or on a patient; ''(B)and is- ''(i) a class III device;
or ''(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-
supporting, or life-sustaining."
Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in
paragraph 1,
section B:
''(B) In this paragraph, the term 'data' refers to
information respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
data from disparate data environments, electronic health
records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
Secretary"
What exactly is a class II device that is implantable?
Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an
"implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient
identification and health information." The purpose of a
class II device is to collect data in medical patients such
as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic
files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from
disparate data environments, electronic health records, and
any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."
See it for yourself:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/DeviceRegulationandGuidan...
This new law - when fully implemented - provides the
framework for making the United States the first nation in
the world to require each and every one of its citizens to
have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification
(RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or
isn't, allowed medical care in their country.
Don't believe it? Look it up yourself. Healthcare Bill H.R.
3200:
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf
Pages 1001-1008 "National Medical Device Registry" section.
Page 1006 "to be enacted within 36 months upon passage"
Page 503 "… medical device surveillance"
Why would the government use the word "surveillance" when
referring to citizens? The definition of "surveillance" is
the monitoring of the behavior, activities, or other
changing information, usually of people and often in a
secret manner. The root of the word [French] means to "watch
over."
In theory, the intent to streamline healthcare and to
elimin
by darylehret on 06 April 2010 - 01:04
cont'd....
In theory, the intent to streamline healthcare and to
eliminate fraud via "health chips" seems right. But, to have
the world's lone superpower (America, for now) mandate (page
1006) a device to be IMPLANTED is scary!
Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/105079
Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable
microchip?
http://current.com/items/90842279_coverage-under-obamacare-
will-require-an-implantable-microchip.htm
goldfuture.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/both-house-and-senate-
health-bills-require-the-micro-chipping-of-americans-31810/
March 18, 2010
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/homeland_security_...
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by Kalibeck on 06 April 2010 - 02:04
by Scoutk9GSDs on 06 April 2010 - 02:04
I know dogs read extremely subtle changes. Thats pretty cut and dried. I am more interested in the claims of mental telepathy (purely academically of course). To do it with a dog out of sight/sound of the handler would be very interesting indeed.
Dogs are very much individuals like people are. Each situation will be different. There will prob be constants in the equation but what is considered a "good" relationship is relative. Trust, respect, fairness and honesty are key components to any relationship. The dog is way ahead of us in those respects.
by dani81176 on 06 April 2010 - 04:04
Time and time again I have learned that people, even close ones, fail to prove they are indeed trust worthy or in many or some situations there are strings attached to their love for you. Obviously dogs offer unconditional love and I believe that's a starting point in why we love our dogs so much.. and we may not really be aware of this aspect.
No ofense to anyone here but it sounds to me like some would try to deal with personal frustrations by complicating their relationship with dogs, I would dare to say if I read some posts here again and again, I can read "guilt" between the lines in places. Some of us are good with words and we present justifications for things we've done in the past (mistakes?) by presenting new ways of looking at things.
I may be wrong but I think also, through a forum like this, some of us "tickle" the emotional side of dog lovers / owners in order to either deal with personal frustrations, like I said before, or to develop relationships (with some strings attached).
I am a great believer in judgeing things by their fruit. Cause and effect. if things are a mess in your world and you say that's because of the dog / dogs, I am pretty sure it comes down to bad decisions, bad management, and the love for the dog is no excuse.
Not long ago I left a window opened when I left the house and my Desa jumped inside the house through that window and chewed a few pares of my shoes, some electronic stuff too... all of which I could not use again. Yes, I got mad for a few moments but I chose to laugh at it, as I knew it was my mistake to live that particular window opened.
I guess some of you would probably ask why I said some of the things I said but I know those I am trying to get to will "hear" me out.
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