Waste of a great day! - Page 4

Or maybe more rayray's speed:

good !!!Good !!!!!Excellent to see I am getting to you bird girl!!!4$ pack I know that you are in controll of your dogs but point is you never know when the unexpected will happen and you no longer have controll! I have seen the most obedient of dogs break and the handler loose controll and bad things happen! Been ther done it! One can NEVER rely upon the controll they think they have! When in a public enviorement I always have a line on my girl1 if to hold or quickly step on it ! That new smell or quick movement of an animal may be the differnce between life and death! that is all I am trying to drive home!! good ~!!!!Good bird girl wants some thistle??

rayray  you are simply clueless when it comes to training and proofing.  Just because you are incapable doesn't mean the rest of the world is.  How do you think we manage to proof our dogs for trials (and for everyday life)  - or are you operating under the illusion that competitions are on leash and  held in a sterile environement behind fences with no distractions? 

"vom you did not know what the topic was in the first place!  but you are in form!"

oooh tay. <feels solidly put in her place>
 

4pack,
Was the dog sprayed because it was a loose pitbull or because it was a loose dog?  Would it have mattered if it was a loose GSD?

Robert

Was what dog sprayed? I have never sprayed a dog, just yelled and waved my arms up. I don't have bear mace or anything like that. If your asking if I would be harsher on a Pit than a Lab, GSD or Chi...no. I actually like Bully breeds. I've never met a dog I couldn't run off with my body language and big mouth. Like I said, this wasn't a dog I have seen at  the park with an owner or walking the neighborhood. We have a few dogs that roam loose almost daily in the area but I know what they look and act like and they don't come up to my dogs anymore, so I don't bother leaving the area when I see them.

Occasionally on my walks with Oakley, I am confronted with a dog at large, meaning there is no owner.  We aren't talking about a dog being walked off leash.  We are talking about a dog walking himself, alone, with no owner. I suppose that off leash, you don't have total control, as in concrete control like you would with a leash, but I have seen dogs that were very reliable off leash, that would walk away from an attack, a threat by another dog, leave off chasing something and recall to the owner.  Regardless, who wants to try and work on training with the danger of a dog attack over their heads?  Not me.

When that solo dog, no owner, suddenly decides to get his hackles up and threaten you, you either get out of there, or try and stop an unnecessary scuffle.  Dogs shouldn't be running at large...This is a battle I deal with with neighbors of mine.  At large a dog is a hazard to himself, traffic, and other creatures, even if he is the nicest dog in the world. I will work my dog off leash when I get her to that point in obedience, and no one should have to deal with a dog running at large, regardless of size or breed.

I keep waiting for a cop to stop me on the town leg of my long walk with Oakley and give me guff because she doesn't have a license...We don't live in the city, and so don't have to license, but I walk her into town sometimes.  She's always on leash, though..can't risk her getting hit on the street, following a track she finds interesting.

Crys

Of course you were right to avoid a dog you don't know. I can't see a single reason for you to take a risk with yourself or your dogs, since AC isn't paying you any wages. Doesn't matter what breed it is. 

I have to say that avoiding a dog that might be aggressive or doesn't have an owner is the best thing to do....but if the occasion arises that you have no choice but to deal with it there is a guy on here sometimes that has a video and I watched it.It shows somethings of what to do to defend yourself.Granted it is a bit harder when you have dogs but check out his site and his video.Pretty informative.
http://www.firstclassdogtraining.com/seminar.php