Is this better? - Page 2

 Look NC,

I read every single post you and your pals have written. You all are going to breed the dogs, no matter what anyone says, and you come here for one reason and that is to hope that you can get feedback that you want to hear and sell pups when the time comes. It doesn't matter what you say, your posts say it all for you to anyone who can read between the lines. Stay or go. I don't care. But don't expect people who do know what the hell they are doing and talking about, and there are many here who do, to bless you. They won't. Why do you think no one answered your posts? Do you think I sent them all PMs and said not to answer? No, it is because they too see what is going on with you and your few buddies.  By the way, your DDR-DSH friend has been convicted of neglect and abuse so I might suggest you forget about her as a friend.

Do what you want. Maybe go do some real research, come here and read for a long time and ask reasonable and intelligent questions? I am sick of posting here and may stop anytime. I get sick of people like you who want to do nothing but produce puppies from half-assed breeding programs and when you have NOT done any kind of homework, even enough to ask a good question. There are many here who were new, or who were new, who have come and learned and participated and gained from it. And yes, there are plenty here who don't like me, or don't agree with me, or someone else. But those who stay and who are genuinely interested in the breed are known to all regardless of how one might feel about them personally. It is up to you. If I wanted to breed a female, believe me, the first thing I would have done would have been to get her hips and elbows certified ASAP. The second thing I would have done would be to do some homework myself as to what was and was not a suitable stud and ask myself WHY was I breeding and what did I want from the breeding. This is besides asking myself whether I had any clue about what made a good dog or not...... But it is worthless to try here because your mind is closed.

I am done with this thread.

Thanks for the info on DDR-DSH....I have no idea who she/he is. Actually I always thought it to be a male.  However that is none of my business and I have nothing more to say about that.
Just so you know.....once again, I will say, I just got this bitch. It is not my fault is not OFA'd. HOWEVER, she has been xrayed and is free of HD and has clear elbows.  With that said AGAIN....Hodie if you would read the posts word for word and not make up something that you said is between the lines, maybe you would understand. Why make up some bulls--t like you just said you did, by reading between the lines... COM'ON guys, she just admitted to what she does. Hodie, trust me on this, I would NEVER come here for blessing. In case you don't know it or don't believe in the LORD, he is the only one who can do the blessings. NO ONE ELSE....... I was told no one answered my post because they were out training dogs. I never read between the lines Hodie. I don't look for things to argue about.  Hodie you don't know nothing about me, only what you fabericated. I do not need to come here hoping people would say what I want to hear, and than hope it helps sell my puppies. My last litter was last yr in April. It had been 10 yrs before that since my last litter. Now, does that sound like I need to promote sales? GET REAL Hodie... Also, I don't need "pals" to run on along side of me. I am on my own, unlike many others.

You know nothing about me, only what you convinced yourself that you think you know. You have no idea what research I have done or how much. I have been successful in the past without the rudeness, cruel and harsh know it alls on here. Trust me, I'll continue to be successful. I don't need your approval or disapproval to continue. You admitted you read all of my, and my pals posts. You  read what you want and interept it to make it say what you want. You seem to get satisfaction doing so. Well go on and have your fun at someone else's expense.

I hope you read this word for word and understand what is is truly saying....But if you want to reply or say anything else to me, do it in a PM, because I am sure the people here are tired of our bickering...
 
My appology to all of you...

 NC writes: "DDR-DSH....I have no idea who she/he is. Actually I always thought it to be a male. However that is none of my business and I have nothing more to say about that."

Bullshit. It is your business unless that is also how you keep dogs. Get your head out of the dark. This is exactly part of the problem is that people don't want to have any kind of stance on anything. All you want to do breed. Do it. But don't expect everyone to get all excited. It is clear what is going on with you. All one need do is read all your posts.

If you don't like what I and others say, don't read it. Simple.

Yeah right Hodie all I want to do is breed... How many litters have you or any one of your pals had in the last 10 yrs? I had one..... But I'm the one who want to breed. 

Bazza, make what yo want out of the post. I was trying tosay I couldn't wait to breed her as I was excited to breed her. Now, She is xrayed....the male is xrayed.... DUH!!!!!  You would have a legitmate arguement if neither had been exrayed...

What part of PM me if you want to continue the nonsense, don't you understand....?

Bazza, vets don't give offical grades, they do xrays. Of course you have to have confidence in your vet's opinion. If you don't and will doubt him, than you shouldn't be going... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a bad hip... or does it...? I did take the responsibility to get her xrayed. I don't own the male, so I can only go by their word if I would use him. Some people are honest.
Boy that statement probably will open a can of worms.....Here it comes!!!

Oh....so you decided not to send the xrays in to be officially graded? Why? 

You guys,I sometimes have a feeling that some native speakers misunderstand what the others say.I see it clearly that Nonacona stated that both dogs have been x-rayed however the x-rays haven´t been officialy OFAed yet.She doesn´t say they haven´t been x-rayed.I believe that most of you can read the x-rays clearly,and some of you probably can read the x-rays much better that some vets since you have a lot of experience with it.
I just don´t understand why there are so many needless quarells here.Nonacona is asking about the POSSIBLE future breeding, pros and cons of it,so maybe it would be nice -  if there is somebody who really knows these lines - could give info on it.
From what I see - the pups would be linebred to Aly Vordersteinwald and to Troll Nachbarschaft,both of these dogs were great producers.
Nonacona,what I find important is to know both parents well as well as their lines and what these lines produce.