Boys kill Elizabethton police dog - Page 2

Not going into the specifics of this story, more information is needed.  I hope we see followup reports please.   However, in the United States we have a Constitution.  The Second Ammendment gives us the right to bear arms.   It gets quite old when people from other countires who do not have the same Constitutional rights try to impose their preceived moral stance.  Other countries also have their hoodlums, we just have a legal way to defend ourselves from them if we choose.  It's stinks bad enough that in todays environment the coach B.E. talked about saving the one boy would be fired his job and charged with a crime for having a weapon on shcool property versus being thanked for saving the boys life.

If you believe these kids were just minding their own business and that it is sheer coincidence that on that day at that time that dog broke out of the enclosure he's lived in for two years and attacked them without provocation, I've got a building in Haiti to sell you.

Just based on my own dogs' reaction to children (nice children vs. nasty ones), I say BULLSHIT they were minding their own business. My dogs seem to know exactly which children mind their own business and which ones come into my garage and stab them with fake swords while they're kenneled. Or maybe it's sheer coincidence that they light up on those kids whenever they come into the yard, and sit silently wagging tails at the others. . Must be, huh Baby Eagle??? LMFAO.

Keith, I'll go in halves with you on that property for sale. ;-)

As a parent, if my son were attacked by a dog while carrying a knife and any type gun (play or not), I'd ask him what the hell he did to that dog! But I seem to be one of the few in this country who think people need to take any form of responsibility for their actions at all.

Sad sad story, and a testament to  how f'd up our society is.

The eye witness contradicts much of what the boys said.  I "suspect" that the boys were taunting the dog by shooting him with their pellet guns.   The fact that the boys wore padded clothing clearly indicates that the pellets do hurt.  The boys appear to have been the aggressors.  Also, "nice kids" carry knives ... NOT !

animules
they are trying hard to get weapons off grown ups and Children alike in Europe, It is okay to say you can carry a Gun and a Knife But not so good when it is used on another person to do damage or kill innocent people
And Talking about knives i know a little about them having used them not in civey street through that is the difference
and if anyone one person condones a Child carrying a knife at any time then to me i sure know what i think of that person
There is nothing big in carrying a knife to threaten anyone with, But some on here sure have strange priorities and i guess they do the same so it is normal for them to think that way 
But i wonder how brave they would be if it was the other way around being threatened by someone with a knife and they not having one, I think they would change there minds a bit quick to me a cowards way and always will be
There is more to this than meets the eye and i wonder if the truth will come out
Steve1

As a prior Police Dog Handler, my first thought was that the dog may have been provoked, thus it reacted. Not just as it may have been trained, but as any living creature would do. Once provoked, the boys then had to defend themselves, but had the dog not been provoked, this story wouldn’t even be a story. What may have began innocently, turned deadly.
Each dog is different, but my Police Service Dog was an excellent judge of character. He knew who was good and who was not and knew who to except and who to not. I feel it is not a matter of us blaming the dog or the children, the incident still happened. RIP to the fallen Police Dog.
I hope the investigation continues and hope that all involved have learned a valuable lesson.

Was this police dog at large or not ?

Who is responsible ?

B.E.  Yes, the dog got out.  However, innocent, nice kids would not have done what these boys did.   As for the one that took off in his car -- he was either very instrumental in what happened to the dog or he saw what the others were doing and got scared and took off.   I do hope that the investigation can determine what really happened.   

I would think the owner or Police Dept. would be held responsible for what happened, depending on State Law.  Say for example, this dog was not a service dog, just someones pet,  I'm sure the owners would be held responsible.  Again depending on State Law.  The dog was lose, possibly provoked, attacked.  Most States would probably still hold the owners responsible for not maintaining control of their dog.
Any other action could be held in Civil Court.  But maybe this State views this situation and its outcome differently because the dog was a Police Service Dog. 
Not aure if any of us wille ver know.

It is quite possible the kids provoked the dog.

It is also possible the police dog saw the guns, and figured they were criminals that needed to be taken down.

Not all police dogs have the ability to make a judgement call between kids having fun with guns, and real criminals with guns.

I've seen videos of a perp being bitten on the leg/ankle by a police dog, and the officers were trying to handcuff him, and yelling at him because he wasn't lying still, and he kept yelling back, "Get your dog off me, PLEASE!! He's hurting me!"

The dog refused to out, and kept chomping on the bad guy's ankle. He did some serious damage, too.  Not surprisingly, the man (who was innocent, BTW!) tried to take the officers to court, but got stonewalled. He took his case to T.V. instead. (I think it was 60 Minutes, but I'm not sure.)

Not all police dogs are well-trained.  Not all of them are clear-headed, either.

I'm reserving judgement on this one until all the facts are in.