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by Bob McKown on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

I don,t know if I,call it equal it really depends on the dominate genetics of the 2 animals. and we can agree that the amount of breeding of a male doesnt always collate to good breedings. The genetic material from each is half the equasion but inheritied genetics is a different story.

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

Of course, Bob, if you want get specific but I think you get my point. 

buckeyefan gsd

by buckeyefan gsd on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

so do you suppose females that "genetictly stamp"their progeny can have more influence through nurturing than a male who produces himself

by SitasMom on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

JMO -

While genitec influence is equal, the bitch will have a bigger influence in the puppies developement then the stud. A bitch that has the character traits that you want is very important. 

A nervous, or overly submissive bitch will not help the confidence of a litter. While an overly dominate female that wants to fight with every other dog may not be a good choice either.

People go aound looking for the most popular stud they can afford. There are very few of them that are used very often. The genetic diversity of the breed is suffering because of this. The "top studs" are used as a marketing tool because of name recognition. How many times have we seen some one looking for a "Zamp" son, or a "Troll" grand daughter? 

If we all had a true understanding of genitics and the time to study which matings could bring the best results. If we all had the strength to resist going for the "name" and instead went for ability, temperment and structure. If we made an effort to contact people who's breeding programs have made a positive impact, and really listened to their opinions - we would improve the genetic diversity, ability, temperment, usefullnes, health and structural soundness of our breed.

Just food for thought.


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 05 January 2010 - 16:01

"so do you suppose females that "genetictly stamp"their progeny can have more influence through nurturing than a male who produces himself"

Absolutely!


VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 05 January 2010 - 17:01

You want a bitch with fight drive, rock hard nerves, powerful grips, great work ethic and the damn safest thing your toddler could ever walk up to and hug...I already have it. Unfortunately for me, we've had a slew of bad luck and issues with reproductivity and I only got two litters from her. Even sadder, I never got my personal working male out of her. Such is life.

by VomMarischal on 05 January 2010 - 17:01

Who on earth would want a bitch with any less fight drive etc than males have??????? Bleah. 

by jennie on 05 January 2010 - 18:01

 I liked this bitch, kickwas quincy, competed several times in the swedish championship for protectiondogs and also won the nordic championship 2001 for protectiondogs in the traditional swedish/nordic protectionprogram. A nice healthy bitch with a serious side that also produced dogs that are used today in breedings, Some movies and pedigree can be seen here,

http://qurare.se/html/quincyfilm.htm


http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/430885.html


by jennie on 05 January 2010 - 18:01

 films,

http://qurare.se/html/quincyfilm.htm

steve1

by steve1 on 05 January 2010 - 20:01

KCzaja
Yes and Izzys mother ia all that rolled into one Dog look at her resume, and her daughter will be at least as good
She has had many helpers reeling when she goes in
For me a great Female is above a same qualily Male you get a lot more chances of a Top male than you do a Top Female even if you have the money to spend they are few and far between
Steve1





 


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