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i have just gotten a checz shepherd 2 year old male, was supossed to fired from the police force. said that he failed the drug work. i do have some papers on him but it is in foreign writting. has any one heard of a blk and red male. all i can figure out is Pies Toro. and something about a Michael Morgan. My dog is very skinny and very skidish. i can not put weight on him. YOU CAN COUNT ANY AND ALL BONES. i feed him 3 times daily eukanuba performance. i have wormed him. and he also has a very runny stool with blood and always is licking of his anus. im a groomer so i have done his anal gland. but my biggest thing is has anyone heard of my dog. he came over here from checz in 6-06 i got him in 10-06. im located in michigan. and dont really know if things on my dog are all that true. one thing i do know is he does not have soild nerves. VERY high prey drive, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS I LOVE HIM. HE IS MY MAN. HE ALSO GREAT WITH MY 5 YEAR OLD SON. anyways if anyone has heard of or know how i could find out more on toro. he is supposed to 2 years old. from checz. some thing Michael Morgan, Pies toro once again any and all info would be great. thanks Mi toro

well, who did you get him from?? Can't they help with this?? Stop expressing his anal glands, maybe they are infected or something else is not right... have him checked by your vet.. How can he have solid nerves and be skidish?? That just doesn't work.. which one is it?? Again, you need to go back to who you got him from and he needs a complete vet exam.. parasite, etc.... and try something besides the Eukanuba.. yuck

Sounds like a dose of Probios couldnt' hurt him, if he has runny stool, maybe gut is not quite balanced. I would say get to the vet and see what's up !! Maybe the feed is too "hot" right now, maybe something more bland until he gets things working right again. have you tried some yogurt? Again I reinterate, Vet First !! find out what's going on in his gut, blood combined in runny stool is a good indication of cocsidiosis. (hope I spelled that right) Gut is obviously out of balance, until you get that strait you won't put weight on him. Dkiah, She said does NOT have solid nerves and is skidish. I had to re read it too :-)

DKiah-- As I read she stated I know one thing he does NOT have solid nerves. Some times "tone of voice" causes one asking for help to feel contempt? like YUK! mitoro-- DK is probably right about back tracking where he came from. Some one should be able to help with some info. I think there are foods that can do more for less money than Eukanuba. Performance is for sure NOT the proper formulation. Hi protein has nothing to do with putting on weight. Get something lower protein higher fat. I would get dog to vet and have physical, stool check, any follow-up suggested. Boiled hamburger and rice (bland) might help sooth intestinal tract. Vet needs to see dog. Morgan (NOT Mike but yes Michigan) GOOOO Blue!

mi toro-- Before anything, he has to go to the vet. Try and bring a stool sample. Let them run tests, and I hate to put this added expense on you--blood should be taken and checked for Pancreatic Insufficiency. If all tests are negative, then concentrate on food.

Oh,ok.. thanks.. guess I was going too fast.. that makes more sense.... one other thing, how long have you had him?? Also very skittish, doesn not have solid nerves.. be careful especially with kids!!

LMH and the others are right. You need fecal tests for giardia and coccidea in addition to some blood work to figure out whats is going on with your boy. As to your other problem, I would start by contacting the person you purchaed your dog from. I did a quick search for Michael Morgan, GSD on google and came up with something. Is this the right Mike Morgan? I noticed you are both in Michigan. Maybe he could help if it is. http://www.midmichigankennels.com/staff.htm

artillery, is correct, You need fecal tests for giardia and coccidea, and so is PJDOGS, boiled rice and hambuger. This would be a good place to start. If he has runny stools, you can give him some Pedialyte (buy it the grocery stores, baby isle) unitl the vets open after holiday. This will prevent dehydration. Also, once diganosed, ask the vet if you need to treat potty area, etc.

For a beginning, Coccidia is typically a common disease that affects only young puppies as they have not yet developed a strong immune system and cannot fight it. An older puppy or adult can come into contact with the organism and pass it through without any ill effects, and this is how a dam can pass it to weaning puppies. The incubation time is approximately two (2) weeks, so when a puppy is affected they are usually at least eight (8) weeks old. It is easily curable through the administration of Albon and usually never bothers the puppy again. Again, this is typically something that does not affect an adult. But, I can see where a dog who is emaciated can very well have a severely-compromised immune system, leaving his body to be a host for possibly Coccidia, but any other number of nasty organisms including Giardia, worms, etc.. The best advice is to gather a stool sample and make this dog an appointment with a veterinarian as soon as possible. Until the dog is in the clinic a bland diet such as that suggested by PJDogs is fine, and make sure that he is well-hydrated, even if you have to use a turkey baster to make him drink. Pancreatic insufficiency generally causes the production of a very soft, yellowish stool with a foul odour, and typically strikes at about eight (8) to fourteen (14) months of age. Older dogs do occassionally have this problem, but it happens late in life and is gradual as it appears. In this case the stool appears to be bloody (very dark) and watery. The appearance and density of the stool is invaluable to the owner of any dog as it well describes what is going on inside the dog, and for this dog the stool indicates a bowel inflammation caused by whatever can be determined through examination. I think that once this dog recieves a proper diagnosis and successful treatment that his demeanor will improve tremendously. Mi Toro, I commend you for being concerned about his welfare. Get the stool sample and get him to a good veterinarian. Bob-O

Over the years, I've had 2 dogs with pancreatic insufficiency. My first started having bouts of diarrhea and bloody stools. Would change dog foods, and play with diet. Also, took him to vet and his recommendation was always no food for 24 hrs, then small amts. Originally, would give immodium (which worked fine) but vet said that was ill-advised--just no food for 24 hrs. (I'd be willing to go back and use immodium again--never had a problem with shepherds or my retriever---another breed, don't know--doing nothing for 24 hrs was too much on his body). Finally, a new vet came on board and ran a blood test--diagnosis--pancreatic insufficiency, and I was introduced to Viokase. Very expensive, but I did find that half the recommended dosage worked fine. As long as I sprinkled it on his food, no diarrhea. Miss adding it to even one meal, and a loose stool. (I switched foods constantly during that year before he was diagnosed--no pale or yellow stools--His stool would be solid for a week, then diarrhea for a couple of days with drops of blood). My other dog didn't have bloody stools--when the stools got loose and yellowish, I was familiar with the problem, having already read as much as I could find on the disease. Again, pancreatic insufficiency. mi toro--Your dog could have been dealing with this condition for awhile--- I'd have him checked for pi, along with everything else. You have no real knowledge of his prior medical history. (Just mention the possibility to the vet.)