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Hello,


It surprises me much, why one gets full papers (which in other countries I find very good) and in Germany the same dogs in the papers are missing?????

I Think
FCI rules are FCI rules and should ALL countries concern

Greetings Nicole

 Nicole,

This is basically the same issue as we have with dogs of coloured parents. You can use them everywhere but not in germany and suisse. germany goes along with FCI regulations when registering a dog. other contries just take the pedigree of the dog and copy it. even if the parents have not been registered in any FCI country.

maybe it is the german mentality of being very correct with rules and regulations ;-) we, as german breeders, have to live with it.

Hi,
What I really dont understand is why breeders outside Germany and Switzerland continue being FCI if they do not follow the rules. It's not a german problem is the others problem.
There is much to discuss about the convinience of banning non-FCI WSSD bloodlines but the rule must be followed,everyone has the chance to separate.
It's obvious that your country neighbours have the chance of breeding with dogs you cant, but it's only a matter of time for them to stop.

Lendinez

Hello,

I don´t understand why there is so much trouble. If someone doesn´t like this bloodlines, he doesn´t have to buy a puppy of this bloodlines or he doesn´t have to use a male of this lines. 2 White Shepherds will always have white puppies, so where is the problem?

I think the dogs with this bloodlines will stay in the FCI breeding and only some countries won´t accept them. And this rule was after the registration of some dogs. You can´t register a dog and then you say that you can´t breed with them. And before this rule came out some people breed with this dogs even in Germany but nobody cared. Stupid world.

Bye,

Andreas

@andreas

i know this is difficult. i also would prefer to have the same regualtions for all countries. either the dog which have been registrated can be used by all countries or not... i think this was the question at first. why are different countries handling the same issue in different ways? the bloodlines is just one issue. also the way of filling the pedigree.

dogs have been registered quite a few time ago and the circular came at a later stage. but why came this circular? and why most of the countries do not care about this?

jetzt mal auf deutsch:-)
die ausgangsfrage war doch, warum füllen ander fci länder die ahnentafeln mit hunden, die nie fci registriert wurden? deutschland zb. lässt die leer. dh. deutschland hält sich an die vorgaben. andere wohl nicht... aber es stört wohl auch niemanden. 
die frage ist doch, wozu haben wir regeln? 

und zu deiner frage: ich mag fremde blutlinien. aber ich kann sie nicht immer nutzen, weil ich keine genehmigung bekomme. und für mich als züchter ist es schwer zu verstehen, warum andere etwas dürfen, was wir nicht dürfen, auch wenn sie unter der fci züchten.
ich weiß nicht, ob ich mich da halbwegs verständlich ausdrücke.

ich kann auch die von brooke hier eingestellten hunde aus australien nicht nutzen.... andere können dies. wir sind doch letztendlich auf züchter im ausland angewiesen, die blutlinien und hunde in die zucht zu bringen, damit wir sie später nutzen können.
und was obis blutlinie angeht;-) die wird früh genug nach deutschland kommen... denn die geforderten 3 generationen sind ja bald erreicht. ich freu mich drauf. :-)



 

Hi Andreas,
It is in fact an stupid world, mating two good white shepherds is no problem except for the FCI I suppose, so then my question is if the FCI is doing well his job. It seems the national federations (except Germany) think not.????????

The division around the world in the breed, will ultimately destroy it in my opinion.. It's already becoming extremely hard to source new bloodlines and the breed has only been recognised for a short time. 

I think many forget where our beautiful WSS came from, the White German Shepherd.. Outcast by it's mother breed for being a faulty colour.. And now, we outcast our own for foolish political reasons, instead of embracing them to increase & improve the genepool that is quickly closing in on itself. Hypocrites? 

 @alpinarc:

what choice do we have in germany then? 

I put all my hope on breeders in other countries who have many more possibilities of importing new lines.

I have to agree with Alpinarc.... If the lines are true and purebred White Shepherds, why restrict them further about registration?

It must be hard in Germany... The genepool must be getting very low.