Berger Blanc Suisse - Page 1

I think it is still impossible, because the white Shepherd is since 1.1.2003 FCI-recognised

as seperate race named "BBS", and it is not possible to breed 3 Generations "BBS" in only 4 years.

The years before the name from race was only "White Shepherd" or "American Canadian white Shepherd",

not BBS .

it is possible...there are a lot of dogs that already have 3 generation of bbs in the pedigree...it all dipends on what kind of dog you are looking after and from which country

Are I'am wrong, please check it out if Iam right or wrong.

For examble:

We need 3 Generations as "Berger Blanc Suisse".

1. Generation ( the Grand Grand Parents)

have to be registered as Berger Blance, the registration was possible in age of 15 month,

earlyest in 1.1.2003.

We need 4 Grand Grand Parents that was registered as a Berger Blanc Suisse in January 2003.

Next  2.Generation (the children of them, in pedigree the grandparents), born earlyest February 2003.  

Next 3.Generation, (parents) born October 2004.  Breed them and puppys that was aked from Australia,

the 4. Generation they need, was  born April 2006.

We know the problems about inbreedings in Eruope, to bring good white ones together, I think it do not work,

to find a pedigree with 3 Generation "Berger Blanc Suisse". We can not select mates only for a "chanced race-name".

If you know a litter with 3 Generations BBS please let me know as a examble the name from this combination.

In past any countrys had have a "national" (note, not international FCI - ) recognition. Thats not the same I think,

the national recognised white Shepherds was not  named as "Berger Blanc's " in past  . Dont you think ?

It's possible because many registries recognized their foundation stock of white shepherds as Berger Blanc Suisse.  I have a full three generations on one side of my pups pedigree...just not the other....but yes, it is possible.

~Cate

Hello everybody

I confirmed it is possible all my BBS have a pedigree FCI complet of 3 generations

Hi There,

Depends on where the dog is from, some countries like Holland and Switzerland registred the dogs long before the FCI recognition and there kennel club accepted it and confirmed it into the FCI. weird but true and all other countries will accept it because it is FCI.

I have one adult female here 3 gen. on her pedigree, and I might consider selling her, she has hipresults by the FCI and done several shows with excellent even best Bitch, now 4 years old.

~Naiomi

Are those 3 generations also with FCI registrationnumbers?

In the Netherlands they fill out the names on the pedigree but with no registrationnumber (FCI) and with the explanation NIET GEVERIFIEERD (menings not FCI registration of that dog)

When there is one dog in the 3 generation who has not a FCI registration number than other country''s don''t accept that as a full registration.

To "chrismart"

NIET GEVERIFIEERD means NOT VERIFIED and this is mainly pertaining to the hip score of the dogs, occasionally it also applies to the parentage of some dogs as these dogs were registered with some WSD clubs PRIOR to FCI recognition. So the grandparents, although are from white parentage this is not "officially" confirmed by the Netherlands KC.

I have imported into South Africa 2 WSD from Netherlands of which 1 has got full 5 gen pedigree and is accepted by FCI and the other has a problem from the Denmark KC (Grand parents) so she is NOT VERIFIED with 5 gen pedigree.

I have 7 imported dogs (into South Africa ) from various countries around the world and in total i am owned by 23 White Swiss Shepherds of which most of them have a 5 generation pedigree and i have exported to other countries as well.

You can visit my website to see for yourself,   www.top-dog.co.za/main.htm    I have been breeding for over 20 years.

Naiomi is correct  that the dogs were registered long before the FCI recognition and their kennel club accepted it and confirmed it into the FCI.

Depending on which country they come from - some WSSD do have 3 - 5 gen pedigrees.
 

Why don't so many breeders put scanned copies of their dogs official FCI pedigree on their websites?

Would be good to know since many countries differ so much in registration rules....  Would save time when looking at lines that would be acceptable in certain countries...