Bought nice working line female GSD but never got paperwork - Page 1

Hi GSD community,

I Bought nice working line female GSD but never got paperwork.

Previous owner disappeared. Yeah, I know be more careful...

Any constructive or CREATIVE (and if you insist humorous) suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,

MB

PS Father was Rifle vii from Kreative mom unknown by me.

Why do you need paperwork, at this point?

Rifle shot his bullets, leaving us to wonder just how creative was mom? Maybe some ballistics testings are in order?
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Kreative is a large commercial kennel in California that produces dogs best suited to police and protection. The correct kennel name is " of kreative " for Kreative Kennels produced dogs. If your dog's father is from Kreative Kennels then they have the buyer and owner who purchased the dog from them. The sire would be 5 years old if from the Kreative litter with RI names. Kreative has had hundreds of litters thus there are many R litters but RI is limited to one litter. Kreative bred dogs are usually well bred and pups from them usually sell for $2500 to $4000. If you purchased your dog without breeding rights then you may only be entitled to a limited registration. I'm not entirely convinced you have the name of your dog's sire right or it could be the seller lied to you and that is why you don't have a pedigree.

Riff of Kreative is a son of Zoran Ben Ju. Possible grandsire of your female is Zoran Ben Ju if any of your pedigree is factual.  AKC should be able to track lineage via grandpa Zoran Ben Ju who is one of the best studs of the last 20 years if his son Riff is the sire of your female.  If your female was pedigree litter registered even if not individually registered you should get some leads to her litter mates

 

Bubbaboo gave you a great starting point. Depending on what you want to do, DNA testing maybe an option for you. But if you don't have breeding rights and are not trying to title the dog. Why waist your time with the leg work. Chalk it up to lesson learned.

Yenny vom Haus Breitenstein is likely grand dam to your female if an r litter male of Kreative was sire. Two different males mated to her produced two R litters 5-6 years earlier for Kreative.  One litter was line bred on Pike for those keeping score.  Like them or hate them Kreative knows how to breed GSD.  Zoran was one of the males and a Salztalblick male was the other sire. Look up her pedigree ... Yenny.  Be aware that what is entered in PDB is not necessarily complete or correct. The names of the litters are ra, ri and ro but are mixed so someone could have mixed dogs from different litters by the same female ... ie Yenny. Beginning to wonder if the dog credited to your female as sire exists at all under the Kreative name or was just someone trying to use the Kreative name to throw you off by suggesting well bred parents. You may be better off not knowing the truth.

Thank you to everyone for you informative and helpful replies!