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by vk4gsd on 24 November 2014 - 20:11


Shtal

by Shtal on 28 November 2014 - 10:11

Dear Vk4, the problem here is not walking on water but why this person in your link was trying to walk on water. You see Vk4, per say if the pastor was running away from danger and was surrounded by water, God will intervene. But to get up and tell the congregation that I want to walk on water because Jesus did it, its shear PRIDE and satan-driven. God can never be part of it....You see vk4 it is very clear thing that the power of God can not be use in a selfish way. God did not gave us his power to tempt him but to draw men into his kingdom. In Matthew 4:6-7, when satan told Jesus that if thou be the son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, he shall give his angels concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. But Jesus replied and said, thou shall not tempt the lord thou God. So we should not use the power of God for our selfish interest. Someone will say am gonna walk on the sea because Jesus walked on the sea. The lord did not walk on the sea for selfish interest but for a very good purpose which Bible talks about very clearly. You see my dear Vk4 and you already know that I believe in the Bible. Bible does not encourage people to walk on water or walk into a den full of lions but to preach the word of God, to preach the good news of salvation. But people like this pastor in your link my dear vk4 was idiot. Even Daniel would not have dared walk into a den full of lions intentionally just to establish his faith in the one true God unless he was forced to or thrown there. My conclusion vk4 as always your intentions finding fault in Christianity just like your dark lord to whom you serve.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 November 2014 - 10:11

Shtal, for once I actually agree with you !  [ Not so much about the last sentence.]


1Ruger1

by 1Ruger1 on 28 November 2014 - 13:11

shtal Thumbs Up,,,,,


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 28 November 2014 - 16:11

God sure didn't help all those poor boys the priests molested and raped. But he has helped the priests, strange how YOUR God works. I guess maybe those boys asked for it, huh?


1Ruger1

by 1Ruger1 on 28 November 2014 - 17:11

Admin~ don't want you to regret getting me back on the database ;) , but your comment has nothing to do with Shtals post. The God of the Bible is not a genie that does what we deem right and appropriate. The point being made by Shtal can be summed up in, " do not tempt the Lord your God",,, it's spot on and the pastor got what he deserved,,, lol,,, :)

Mountain Lion

by Mountain Lion on 28 November 2014 - 18:11

"God sure didn't help all those poor boys the priests molested and raped. But he has helped the priests, strange how YOUR God works. I guess maybe those boys asked for it, huh?"

Apparently he didn't help them.

Apparently he didn't help the people who were taken slaves, cannibalized, raped, murdered, robed etc. by the Native American Indians either. And I only touched on a few of their adventures.

And, yes indeed they took slaves and were invloved in cannibalism.


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 28 November 2014 - 18:11

Ruger,

No regrets.

 

God isn't a genie? lol.

My point is, no matter what danger God isn't going to help, no matter what. Answer me one question. How can you as a Christian justify the timeline.  Ruger the first man wasn't a Christian because he predated Christianity by tens of thousands of years. Shtal how old is the universe?

 


by vk4gsd on 28 November 2014 - 19:11

shtal calls xians he does not agree with idiots and satan driven, judge much. actually anyone who disagrees with shtal's personal version of god is wrong.

these are most likely very honest people deep in their faith.

this Xian article gives some insights;


link: http://www.streamingfaith.com/news/index.php/church/story/snake-handling-Christians-faith-prophecy-and-obedience/

excerpt;

"Serpent-handling first emerged in the early 1900s and its popularity is credited to the ministry of George Hensley, a Pentecostal minister from Tennessee. Experts claim that between 80 and 100 handlers have been killed as a result of venomous snake bites,...

They all agree, however, that they are compelled by Scripture to handle serpents and some even incorporate ingesting poison or handling fire during worship. According to experts, it is also typical for snake handlers to avoid medical help if bitten by a poisonous snake, yet, ironically, seeking a physician's help for an ailment like a heart disease is not unheard of.

...But for most handlers, their worship practices are not simply about showing that God will "keep them safe" and many do indeed expect to be bitten, although danger is not an issue for them.

"They believe that when they pick up a serpent, whatever happens is up to God. But should they be bitten and should they die, it doesn't matter because their salvation is assured, and that's what matters most because they believe in this life being but a forerunner to eternal salvation. And what concerns them is eternal salvation,".
 


by vk4gsd on 28 November 2014 - 19:11

ruger you have a real contradiction as far as scripture goes, anyway the results of such extreme acts of faith are indistinguishable from no god being present, the results follow the same pattern, so why imply a god who is invisible and acts like it does not ecists at all.

 

speaking in tongues does not count, even i can fake that, hard to fake walking on water.






 


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