you believe in democracy so why not.....

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by vk4gsd on 01 September 2013 - 20:09

use modern technology to continue the ancient greek tradition of all the PEOPLE voting in the square on an issue that effects every citizen by using the internet to allow citizens to vote directly on bills/laws. i do not believe the technical arguments that it is too easy to hack etc. are we all too immature and uneducated to decide what is good for us, our country and our own fates?

by ggturner on 01 September 2013 - 20:09

Sometimes I wish we could all vote on the issues. However, I do think monitoring it online would be difficult. My students know how to over-ride a lot of filters and safe guards on computers. Not to mention those who specialize in computers like my son who is a computer analyst and is able to hack into systems.

by vk4gsd on 01 September 2013 - 20:09

never thought it would be a simple network but i still don't buy the technical argument, just seems an easy out. banks, NSA, stockmarket...altho not immune to hacking seem to get by. give me something else other than the technical argument.

by Carlin on 01 September 2013 - 20:09

One of the reasons we have the representative system we have in the states is so that the interests of less populous areas aren't obscured by the interests of the huge urban centers. What is relevant to the man sitting in Times Square may not even be understood by the rancher on the plains, and vice versa. The polis were relatively small and intimate, where citizens shared like interests. If you look at them as a whole, they could be quite diverse depending on the region; Athens and Sparta, for example.

by vk4gsd on 01 September 2013 - 20:09

population distributions??? algorithm.

if the only objection is technical, how sad so many do not believe enough in themselves and their fellow citizens, that right there is the real problem. i have heard it said you/we get the leaders we deserve.

by Carlin on 01 September 2013 - 21:09

if the only objection is technical

...it's not, but the explanation is rather lengthy. Let's just say straight democracy (as opposed to the federal constitutional republic) has its own drawbacks.

so many do not believe enough in themselves and their fellow citizens

that's a good place to start, I agree.

"I know indeed what evil I intend to do, But stronger than all my afterthoughts is my fury, Fury that brings upon mortals the greatest evils." - Euripides, 5th century B.C.

by vk4gsd on 01 September 2013 - 21:09

i don't get the relevance of the quote?? care to explain.

by beetree on 01 September 2013 - 22:09

You have to believe in what you say vk4, to actually get the relevance. And you have to know the repercussions that follow; if half the people want something, do manage to get it, the other half is only putting up with it. The mistake is confusing an attempt to acquiesce on an agreement, will also be equated with willful compliance on the other end.

by BabyEagle4U on 02 September 2013 - 12:09

And then you have America, 50 individual Republics within one United State of Republics where the very thought of a government by way of Democracy is ILLEGAL !!! LOL

Fun times we live - HUH ?

Please refer to Article 4. Section 4 of the United States Constitution. Shades Smile

by Two Moons on 02 September 2013 - 14:09

Ancient Greeks....LOL
Trust nothing electronic, digital, no ticky no laundry.

Why not?
Nine of ten is why not.

The great illusion, democracy.

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