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by Keith Grossman on 18 January 2013 - 15:01
I see it this way: in order for anyone to believe that the government is going to such great lengths to pull the wool over everyone's eyes, he/she must come to the conclusion that the government cares what we think in the first place. Given what we see coming from our elected officials, I'm not sure how anyone can suspend logic enough to come to that conclusion.
by Ninja181 on 18 January 2013 - 15:01
Nobody with a functioning brain could make as many bad decisions as the Federal Government has in the last ten years. Both parties included.
So I view it as it must be on purpose.
I don't trust them.
So I view it as it must be on purpose.
I don't trust them.
by BabyEagle4U on 18 January 2013 - 15:01
You know, I watched a program last night where people compete in cooking.
One lady said "I can't believe I have to do this, I never cooked with vegtables grown on a farm before".
LMAO
One lady said "I can't believe I have to do this, I never cooked with vegtables grown on a farm before".
LMAO
by Preston on 18 January 2013 - 16:01
Actually the USG employs numerous social engineering analysts that use complex algorithms to predict social trends and design "talking points", narratives and memes to "manage and engineer" the public with. The USG (specifically the "pentagon boys"), care a great deal and spend millions on "information awareness". To make such a statement as you made Grossman shows you are a person who basically knows nothing about these programs or the billions of dollars spent on them yearly. Perhaps you need to read the article called Top Secret America and start of open your closed mind and learn about true reality. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/ or this http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/iraq-war-on-terror/topsecretamerica/has-the-balance-tipped/ .
The USG and American intel spend many billions each year on high tech computer social gaming in which they create an artificial cyber public mind and input thousands of problems and solutions to predict every possible scenario that can occur and custom design solutions, all in advance to any natural occurrence of the problems. If they see that a problem will eventually occur they make changes in policy to provoke the people to act before the the masses become too motivated and base expectations change too much. In this way they can provoke an issue and deal with it on their terms, not the people's terms.
The staging of false flag attacks are but one provocation to speed up a naturally occurring process so it can be proactively managed in a weakened "pre-occurrence" fashion. By the way I am an expert on USG and American Intel corruption and have been recognized as such. earlier in my training I was awarded and completed a special traineeship fellowship in deviant behavior as a part of my doctorate at the NIMH. During this time I began extensive research into the justice system and endemic corruption there, all paid for by the USG. Since I have retired I have published extensively. While I was working I could not do this do to certain arrangements and agreements in place, so I am doing my part now to expose the massive corrup.tion that has evolved using massive taxpayer funding and other sources of secret funding. Here is an article which folks might be able to gain some information on how American Intel was corrupted. It was written for the spook and special operator community. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/16/the-debasement-of-american-intel-step-by-step/
As I said one of my last posts will be a detailed expose from a well respected source and sources of actual witnesses too i(.e. victims on the ship) of the USS Liberty Ship false flag attack. the sailors and their officers were threatened by higher ups with court martial or assassination if they talked to the media about it. Admiral Moorer went public before he died and corroborated this story of one of the biggest USG crimes and scandals in history. The evidence for it is all public now and overwhelming. The problem is that most of the public just hasn't heard even though all the survivors have started talking publicly.
At the time there was a movement in the Congress to fund research which would help understand deviant behavior at all levels. I just happened to end up doing a lot of work in the deviance of the super-elites, the USG and American intel. There was an undercurrent of disgust with various parts of the USG because of the Vietnam war machine and this set off moves inside Congress to change things. This lasted les than a decade unfortunately. The public and its "group mind" is recognized by the USG as a very important entity that must be managed if the "ruling super-elites" are to stay in power which is their foremost goal above everything. These folks, the USG and the Secret Shadow Govt of America (SSG) are the world's biggest doomsday preppers who build massive deep underground bases which crisscross America and have built masses storehouses of military rations, ammo and weapons for the future (just in case).
The USG and American intel spend many billions each year on high tech computer social gaming in which they create an artificial cyber public mind and input thousands of problems and solutions to predict every possible scenario that can occur and custom design solutions, all in advance to any natural occurrence of the problems. If they see that a problem will eventually occur they make changes in policy to provoke the people to act before the the masses become too motivated and base expectations change too much. In this way they can provoke an issue and deal with it on their terms, not the people's terms.
The staging of false flag attacks are but one provocation to speed up a naturally occurring process so it can be proactively managed in a weakened "pre-occurrence" fashion. By the way I am an expert on USG and American Intel corruption and have been recognized as such. earlier in my training I was awarded and completed a special traineeship fellowship in deviant behavior as a part of my doctorate at the NIMH. During this time I began extensive research into the justice system and endemic corruption there, all paid for by the USG. Since I have retired I have published extensively. While I was working I could not do this do to certain arrangements and agreements in place, so I am doing my part now to expose the massive corrup.tion that has evolved using massive taxpayer funding and other sources of secret funding. Here is an article which folks might be able to gain some information on how American Intel was corrupted. It was written for the spook and special operator community. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/16/the-debasement-of-american-intel-step-by-step/
As I said one of my last posts will be a detailed expose from a well respected source and sources of actual witnesses too i(.e. victims on the ship) of the USS Liberty Ship false flag attack. the sailors and their officers were threatened by higher ups with court martial or assassination if they talked to the media about it. Admiral Moorer went public before he died and corroborated this story of one of the biggest USG crimes and scandals in history. The evidence for it is all public now and overwhelming. The problem is that most of the public just hasn't heard even though all the survivors have started talking publicly.
At the time there was a movement in the Congress to fund research which would help understand deviant behavior at all levels. I just happened to end up doing a lot of work in the deviance of the super-elites, the USG and American intel. There was an undercurrent of disgust with various parts of the USG because of the Vietnam war machine and this set off moves inside Congress to change things. This lasted les than a decade unfortunately. The public and its "group mind" is recognized by the USG as a very important entity that must be managed if the "ruling super-elites" are to stay in power which is their foremost goal above everything. These folks, the USG and the Secret Shadow Govt of America (SSG) are the world's biggest doomsday preppers who build massive deep underground bases which crisscross America and have built masses storehouses of military rations, ammo and weapons for the future (just in case).
by keepthefaith on 18 January 2013 - 17:01
Preston: Just curious as to whether you are the same Dr Preston James who publishes articles on other forums expressing quite similar views that you offer on this site.
by Preston on 18 January 2013 - 17:01
I have only posted on this forum. I do not use any other forums, but others may use my pen name and post on other forums. Why this would happen is not appropriate for any discussion here. I am a columnist for two international publications, one which is for the clandestine community. My articles may be picked up and republished with or even without my permission once they go public that is are considered public domain and no charge is made for viewing them.
I have been using PDB for many years because it is of incalculable value to owners, breeders and trainers of the GSD. No where else can one find such important breed information. Oli is an absolute software genius and his work is so outstanding and unique no one could ever match it in two lifetimes. PDB is a streak of creative genius rarely occurring in society. The forum and off topic sections were added perhaps to extend PDB to offer a complete package of services for GSD owners and enthusiasts. This also is a credit to Oli's foresight and dedication to service for GSD enthusiasts.
But the main value of PDB is the outstanding GSD breed information, photos and the excellent advertising section which I have used a number of times with good results. No where else can one get access to some of the world's very top GSD breeders and trainers all at one site, whether in Germany, Europe, Italy (which probably has the best conformation in the world right now) or in North America or Canada. Oli and his staff have done a great job keeping this massive site working very well and deserve much credit for doing so.
I have periodically posted here, mostly in request by others to balance out the bullying by very ignorant, abusive types who have mobbed the site and preyed on the weaker. The sad thing is that Oli's strong belief in human freedom of thought is often bridged by the bullies that take advantage of it to abuse posters they don't like or agree with. Things would work so much better if these bullies would learn to check themselves and learn to pass over posts they do not want to read and leave it there, thus there would be no more bullying or mobbing of the forum.
I have been using PDB for many years because it is of incalculable value to owners, breeders and trainers of the GSD. No where else can one find such important breed information. Oli is an absolute software genius and his work is so outstanding and unique no one could ever match it in two lifetimes. PDB is a streak of creative genius rarely occurring in society. The forum and off topic sections were added perhaps to extend PDB to offer a complete package of services for GSD owners and enthusiasts. This also is a credit to Oli's foresight and dedication to service for GSD enthusiasts.
But the main value of PDB is the outstanding GSD breed information, photos and the excellent advertising section which I have used a number of times with good results. No where else can one get access to some of the world's very top GSD breeders and trainers all at one site, whether in Germany, Europe, Italy (which probably has the best conformation in the world right now) or in North America or Canada. Oli and his staff have done a great job keeping this massive site working very well and deserve much credit for doing so.
I have periodically posted here, mostly in request by others to balance out the bullying by very ignorant, abusive types who have mobbed the site and preyed on the weaker. The sad thing is that Oli's strong belief in human freedom of thought is often bridged by the bullies that take advantage of it to abuse posters they don't like or agree with. Things would work so much better if these bullies would learn to check themselves and learn to pass over posts they do not want to read and leave it there, thus there would be no more bullying or mobbing of the forum.
by Two Moons on 18 January 2013 - 17:01
That's really lame Keith, weak.
You must live in some kind of bubble.
I could go on and on about all the deception America has excepted with proof, not just the out and out lies, but you'd just think I was a ranting lunatic.
Your either not paying attention, or you tune it out like the majority of the public, or your just not using your brain.
Your government only cares what you think to a point, they don't care mostly because they have gained so much in power because we've all been asleep at the wheel.
Including me, so I know how it is for others.
Some are simply mislead because Americans have gotten easy to mislead, stupid, and uncaring, desensitized.
We let them do this, not willingly but by default, we do nothing, we see nothing, we hear nothing, we enable them.
More and more like a herd, and less like the wolf.
If you don't have doubts or question things, don't call others lunatics for asking those pesky questions or demanding proof.
Moons.
You must live in some kind of bubble.
I could go on and on about all the deception America has excepted with proof, not just the out and out lies, but you'd just think I was a ranting lunatic.
Your either not paying attention, or you tune it out like the majority of the public, or your just not using your brain.
Your government only cares what you think to a point, they don't care mostly because they have gained so much in power because we've all been asleep at the wheel.
Including me, so I know how it is for others.
Some are simply mislead because Americans have gotten easy to mislead, stupid, and uncaring, desensitized.
We let them do this, not willingly but by default, we do nothing, we see nothing, we hear nothing, we enable them.
More and more like a herd, and less like the wolf.
If you don't have doubts or question things, don't call others lunatics for asking those pesky questions or demanding proof.
Moons.
by Keith Grossman on 18 January 2013 - 18:01
by Two Moons on 18 January 2013 - 18:01
LOL..........
I was right the first time Keith, if that's your best then yes your just lame.
I was right the first time Keith, if that's your best then yes your just lame.
by Keith Grossman on 18 January 2013 - 18:01
Yes, you're right, I'm lame because I don't wet my pants at the sight of my own shadow or concern myself with imaginary conspiracies that, even if real, I am powerless to do anything about.
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