Forced Vaccinations for humans? - Page 6

Hi gg, good to see you. :)  Are you for mandatory vaccinations?

mercury in vaccines is rather known and controlled. there are far more widespread sources thaat are well documented and known, such facts are too boring for conspiracy theorists. links in the exceprt. just one of thousands of papers detailing the sources and effects of heavy metals. tell us something we don't know.

excerpt, links in text;

"Metal contamination of garden soils may be widespread in urban areas due to past industrial activity and the use of fossil fuels (Chronopoulos et al., 1997; Sánchez-Camazano et al., 1994; Sterrett et al., 1996; van Lune, 1987; Wong, 1996). Heavy metals may enter the human body through inhalation of dust, direct ingestion of soil, and consumption of food plants grown in metal-contaminated soil (Cambra et al., 1999; Dudka and Miller, 1999; Hawley, 1985). Potentially toxic metals are also present in commercially produced foodstuffs (DEFRA, 1999). Exposure to potentially toxic metals from dust inhalation or soil ingestion is usually modelled simply as the concentration of a contaminant measured in the soil multiplied by the quantity of dust inhaled or soil ingested (Konz et al., 1989). This is a conservative approach to estimate dose, because the bioaccessibility of heavy metals adsorbed on ingested soil is not 100% (Ruby et al., 1999). However, predicting exposure to potentially toxic metals from consumption of food crops is more complicated because uptake of metals by plants depends on soil properties and plant physiologic factors. This leads to much larger uncertainties associated with estimating potential doses through food chains compared to the uncertainties associated with other exposure pathways such as soil ingestion and dust inhalation (McKone, 1994)."

RS,  I wouldn't say that I am for forced vaccinations because I don't think the government should have even more control over us.  However it bothers me that people do not educate themselves regarding vaccines and place others at risk because they won't get vaccinated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
Anobody remembers the Wakefield case?

If forced you mean that if you want to attend public school you must be vaccinated. If forced you mean the police/officals show up at your house and force you. I don't see the first as being forced, you have other choices in private schools and home schooling. Speaking of being forced, has anyone read anything on the next terrorist attack occuring from within? It seems this government control thing is getting out of hand to the point of numerous law enforcement/officals deaths due to right wing extremists who vow the police and government don't have control over them.

" However it bothers me that people do not educate themselves regarding vaccines and place others at risk because they won't get vaccinated."

If your child is vaccinated, and you believe so much in them, what's the worry?  Oh, and if you are worried about children with low immune, maybe you should be more worried WHY they have low immunity.

This new outbreak of measles was FROM vaccinated people.

I find these arguments so lame, AND untrue.

http://www.naturalnews.com/048714_mainstream_media_propaganda_lies.html

 

But I'm not   gong to bang my head against the wall anymore.  What will be will be.

 

"It seems this government control thing is getting out of hand to the point of numerous law enforcement/officals deaths due to right wing extremists who vow the police and government don't have control over them."

 

I agree that this is a huge problem.  It is the police that keep things in order, if more start disrespecting the law, chaos will ensue.  And it will.  I also think Gov't is flaming the fires to increase rebellion so they can in turn bring in more laws.  But don't worry, I'm not going to argue that point, the info is out there if any one cares to search.

 

RS, putting others at risk means young infants who have not been vaccinated yet and don't have a strong immune system.

Do you know how the immune system works?  I do...teach about it extensively in my AP biology class.  There are multiple factors that can compromise someone's immune system, even if that person is in good health.  

I should have mentioned others at risk include the elderly, AIDS patients, people with autoimmune diseases, individuals with asthma, and those undergoing chemotherapy.

sorry about the space, i thought this was worthy of posting more than the link, hoping the right folks will read it;

https://roalddahl.com/roald-dahl/timeline/1960s/november-1962

 

Roald Dahl on Olivia, writing in 1986

"MEASLES: A dangerous illness.

Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn't do anything.

'Are you feeling all right?' I asked her.

'I feel all sleepy,' she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her. That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunised against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness. Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are putting the lives of those children at risk. In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year. Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. About 20 will die.

LET THAT SINK IN.

Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunised?

They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunisation! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunisation.

So what on earth are you worrying about? It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunised.

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All school-children who have not yet had a measles immunisation should beg their parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible.

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was James and the Giant Peach. That was when she was still alive. The second was The BFG, dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children."

WHO taken aback by measles outbreaks