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by GSD Admin on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
A lot of people who have heart attacks live. Please tell your loved ones to not call for help if that is the way you feel.
by Two Moons on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
Done.
by Two Moons on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
Why does medical care cost so much?
by Micaho on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
"Another thing you are wrong about is OC was never to get people who can afford insurance to carry it as those people would be STUPID to not cover themselves in case something bad happened. Instead OC was to help the working poor get affordable health coverage."
Sorry, that is exactly backwards. When Romney did his health care reform on which OC is based, it was because the ratio of people without insurance compared to people with insurance receiving hospital care was too high and the State was going to be penalized by cutting Medicaid funding. Nationally, Medicaid has been a major contributor to the debt load because people gamble they won't need insurance and refuse to spend over $600 a month for nothing. Moons and others say that should be their choice and, as was asked at one of the debates, if someone gambles and loses should they die? No, but there could be a risk pool to deal with that (as long as you're comparing health and car insurance, you supposedly don't have to drive). Anyone who is poor, working or otherwise, was covered by Medicaid. Now the pool of people paying for insurance is expanded because of the mandate and Medicaid can expand. People who qualify will get subsidies to buy insurance in some cases. Still, they have to apply by sharing personal information and will be more dependent upon government.
It really doesn't take a prophet to understand history, patterns and trends. Maybe if there was a ceiling on how much a patient can be charged per year, there would be an incentive to cure them before the quota was reached. I would like to see medical costs lowered, but, other than cutting back on what services are available, I don't see how OC accomplishes this.
Sorry, that is exactly backwards. When Romney did his health care reform on which OC is based, it was because the ratio of people without insurance compared to people with insurance receiving hospital care was too high and the State was going to be penalized by cutting Medicaid funding. Nationally, Medicaid has been a major contributor to the debt load because people gamble they won't need insurance and refuse to spend over $600 a month for nothing. Moons and others say that should be their choice and, as was asked at one of the debates, if someone gambles and loses should they die? No, but there could be a risk pool to deal with that (as long as you're comparing health and car insurance, you supposedly don't have to drive). Anyone who is poor, working or otherwise, was covered by Medicaid. Now the pool of people paying for insurance is expanded because of the mandate and Medicaid can expand. People who qualify will get subsidies to buy insurance in some cases. Still, they have to apply by sharing personal information and will be more dependent upon government.
It really doesn't take a prophet to understand history, patterns and trends. Maybe if there was a ceiling on how much a patient can be charged per year, there would be an incentive to cure them before the quota was reached. I would like to see medical costs lowered, but, other than cutting back on what services are available, I don't see how OC accomplishes this.
by Two Moons on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
It doesn't.
Nothings going to bring down medical care profits, not until all the babyboomers are dead and gone.
Then things will get even more expensive.
This is all a direct result of the insurance monopoly hold on your very life, every aspect of it.
Nothings going to bring down medical care profits, not until all the babyboomers are dead and gone.
Then things will get even more expensive.
This is all a direct result of the insurance monopoly hold on your very life, every aspect of it.
by beetree on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
"Why is medical care so expensive" you asked, because the pricing is about as transparent as a lead wall.
A ceiling on a patent? Micaho... hello... ???
A ceiling on a patent? Micaho... hello... ???
by Two Moons on 21 May 2013 - 14:05
Most of the time people don't even see what's being billed, only their part of it.
Lead wall is correct.
And profit is the answer.
Lead wall is correct.
And profit is the answer.
by GSD Admin on 21 May 2013 - 15:05
BS, I know plenty of working poor and none of them qualify for mediciad. The person who I mentioned earlier is now on SSI and Medicare is useless.
by Carlin on 21 May 2013 - 15:05
When I receive treatment, I get a bill for a certain price. It is then submitted to insurance before I pay my part, and typically, the cost of the procedure or visit is discounted, significantly, sometimes over 30%. I once questioned an MRI provider on this, as to why someone without insurance would pay so much more than I had to, and was told "that's just the way it works".
by Blitzen on 21 May 2013 - 16:05
Did anyone read this?
There are always going to be some who hate everything because of who is responsible for it, not because it may or may not be a good idea. Most don't have a clue how OC is going to effect them or anyone else because they don't do their homework and get their information from Limbaugh et al. When we have people in this country who are still at it about Obama's birth certificate how can we expect to ever move on and get anything of any substance done?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/08/one-hospital-charges-8000-another-38000/
There are always going to be some who hate everything because of who is responsible for it, not because it may or may not be a good idea. Most don't have a clue how OC is going to effect them or anyone else because they don't do their homework and get their information from Limbaugh et al. When we have people in this country who are still at it about Obama's birth certificate how can we expect to ever move on and get anything of any substance done?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/08/one-hospital-charges-8000-another-38000/
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