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by joanro on 30 October 2013 - 10:10

Just trying to help you out, bee.

vonissk

by vonissk on 30 October 2013 - 11:10

Hell I'll feed you Bee. Call up the GW Exotic Animal Park in Wynnewood OK and see how far you get. By the way their vet is the one who has the elk herd. Hell call her--her name is JoAnn Greene also of Wynnewood. Does that satisfy you? I'd love to be a fly on the wall when you do call them. JoAnn doesn't do drama and will get you straight really quick. Not my vet but I have used her and would again because as I said she is a no nonsense type of person and again that is her biz.
And I agree with Joan, you do twist things around. Just like the FDA thing about the jerky treats--first you indicated that you have family in that sector and then you had to retract that and say well they were knowledgeable. And I don't think you understand that the more twisted things you say the lower your credibility goes....
Little Miss O'Hara huh? I like that because it fits. Oh I forgot you are from one of those rich states. While you're up there and want to get on an agenda what about all the dressage horses and how they train them. What about the snaffle bits that all the english riders seem to think is the end all..............
And Joan I would love to live next door to you. Goats for herding, goat's milk and yeah I saw your pups in that goat carcass--maybe mine could steal a bite or two. LOL Anything organic and natural and green IS good. Maybe you and I are just too old school and wanting to do the right thing for some. I don't care. I haven't lived this long byh being stupid.

 

by joanro on 30 October 2013 - 12:10

Good one, Vonissk...

by beetree on 30 October 2013 - 12:10

I like you Vonissk, I really do. This is the point of what I wish you heard me say: 

...You want to force the direction with talk that lumps all into a BYB zoo's mentality. I am not in that conversation and your blanket statement needed to be cleared up.

 ...am still skeptical you see, because they, meaning "accredited zoo's" are putting valued donor dollars at stake with such a practice, and that makes no sense to me.

... Name the zoo, is all I am saying. I will look into it for myself. Thanks


 ...If you all are talking about clandestine under the table operations, then any one can make any claims as they feel inclined. I am dealing with a documented entity

...If I could make the system work the way it was intended...if only! What an optimistic goal, I know!

...
Well, it happens to be my life.


vonissk

by vonissk on 30 October 2013 - 12:10

I understand about your wanting to make everything work like want it to and as it SHOULD be. And I used to be the same way. Oh no I've not lost any of my radicalness about certain things but I have had to learn how to save my energy for the things I CAN make a difference on.
And the biggest most overlooked (IMO) word in the english language is acceptance. Not to get into the Serenity Prayer or anything but it is good for more things than AA. Once you learn to accept the world around you and know your limits on what you can and cannot do I promise you will be a much happier person...at the rate you're going I see strokes and high BP and maybe even ulcers.

And to repeat one more thing acredited or not they are all governed by the same body, the USDA. period.

Grandfather give me the strength to change the thingws I can, to accept those I cannot and the wisdom to know the difference. Very powerful.

by joanro on 30 October 2013 - 12:10

BTW, Vonissk, you would be welcome to share in the fresh goat for you and you pups, anytime. :-)

by joanro on 30 October 2013 - 12:10

Zoos, all of them, have to move the excess animals or they will run out of space....it is perfectly normal to SELL the animals the zoo deems necessary. What is the problem?

by beetree on 30 October 2013 - 12:10

How does one determine the correctness of this statement:.
 

"...acredited or not they are all governed by the same body, the USDA. period."


by joanro on 30 October 2013 - 13:10

Look up USDA.

by beetree on 30 October 2013 - 13:10

Missed the point. Let's try again. How does the money trail lead to USDA for an AZA, that is IRS determined: a public non-profit?





 


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