Does absolute truth exist? - Page 1

????? I see blank.


but to answer your question i am dubious of any claims to absolute truth. my guess is there is none.

the best way to determine what is "truthful" is the scientific method but it is not a claim to absolute truth.

most religions make claims to absolute truth which leads to the problem that two different religions claiming to be the absolute truth can't both be absolutely. true.

vk4 wrote: but to answer your question i am dubious of any claims to absolute truth -----> my guess is there is none.

 

Is that absolutely true? or false?

vk4 wrote: most religions make claims to absolute truth which leads to the problem that two different religions claiming to be the absolute truth can't both be absolutely. true.

 

Just because there are counterfeit dollar bills, you are trying to say that there are no real ones, there are a lot of counterfeit revelations are people saying the revelations but there is ONLY one true revealer and that is God, if you want to claim other revelations well they can do that, but I know for certainly God’s revelation that no other God exists.

Is the OP supposed to be blank?

Yr question in yr second post true or false .... i said my GUESS i can not claim true or false.


second one about the counterfeit bills you only wish yr religion is not counterfeit but you hav no way to claim that other than personal faith. a muslim can also claim christianity is also counterfeit and islam is true and have the same authority as you........ an old book.


when you can tell show that your religion is the true one and the others are "counterfeit " i will listen.....until then i say they are all fairy tales.

VK4 wrote: i said my GUESS i can not claim true or false.

 

So you know something to be true? or You don't know anything to be true?

 

"Very simple and straightforward honest question"

Absolute  truth does exist.

VK4 is not a Christian.  VK4 just cant win for loosing.  Ha-Ha- Ha.

Have a nice weekend vk4.

 

Shtal my friend, VK4 must be full of bruises,from the beatings you have put on him the last while.

Just bought a new Minivan picking it up Monday and I feel like causing a little naughty action here.

But I better not,I might just like it and go over board.

 

  John

Yeah gouda whatever you say.


shtal you ignore my questions but i have to answer yours...ok i will play.

gouda the spoiler already beat you to the punch line and blame the absolute truth is god.

that was mean gouda you ruined shtal big thought bubble.


btw shtal we have played this specific game several times here whers you ask all the questions regardless of what anyone answers and in the end you go well ser god is the only truth..... o can't believe you are repeating the same thing AGAIN.


sye is

Sorry, sye is garbage. but for you i will play i think some things are truer than others. i don't believe in absolute truth.

My “basic contention” that I had revelation from Christian God such that I know something’s for certain. And it is NOT possible to have revelation from other source and will extrapolate how I would be able to differentiate between revelation from Christian God and revelation from another source. And the answer is very simple…there are no other beings that can reveal, I know it’s from God because reveal for certain that he is the ONLY God that exists; reveal these things to NOT only me, he revealed in the book that’s available for you to read as well.

 

You may reply if somebody were to have a revelation then means it can ONLY come from Christian God, (which is) true revelation that is correct.

 

You may ask? How would I able to tell the true revelation from non-true revelation? First of all vk4, it has to be from God and it has to comport with his word.

 

The reason for these things that is from history of the number of people that claimed had revelations and you would be one of them vk4 that I am talking too. Other people claim revelations all the time, people do many things to avoid the real God. You could honestly reply that would be subjective because if revelation, the purpose of revelation, the purpose of the miracle is that purpose NOT to convert that person to Christianity if they are NOT Christian already; return them to the path, to Christianity.

 

So let say for example you have a pagan friend who said to you or claim he had revelation and let say you believe that person because he was sincere and truthful. And he said to you his revelation reinforces your faith in your paganism.

 

And there is also Biblical revelation came from Christian God, and you may say why did that revelation NOT lead that pagan person into Christian faith?

 

And as comparison your revelation is from pagan God, correct? And now you may say that revelation was from God? “But by the definition that person believes it was from pagan God”

 

You see the ONLY deity that can handle out revelations is the Christian God.

 

You see God does NOT reveal “himself anonymous” God reveals himself such that way that we came be certain who it is, no one is with an excuse for denying the God of Christianity, everybody knows that he exists, I already said that before. So God reveals so people know for certain, I am NOT even talking about these you know people said God spoke, I am not even talking about that, I am talking about his word. God has revealed himself such that we can know for certain in his word. And you already admitted that it’s NOT impossible that this God exists because you don’t believe in absolutes to claim there is no God.

 

And in his word this is exactly what he does, he reveals himself through prophecy. I am saying that non-Christians take many things that reinforce non-Christian faith because denying the God they know it exists. Now you want to claim my dear vk4 other revelations, people do that maybe through hallucinations.

 

You see if I come back to my first post just because there are counterfeit dollar bills, you are trying to say that there are no real ones, there are a lot of counterfeit revelations are people saying the revelations but there is ONLY one true revealer and that is God, if you want to claim other revelations well they can do that, but I know for certainly God’s revelation that no other God exists.

My first question: Was it impossible the God of Christianity to exist and you said no that is NOT impossible based on your reply you don’t believe in absolutes. So how do I know it? Because he reveals himself certainly, that’s why I know, and you admitted that God exists.

 

 

And I am getting the certainly from revelation from God who reveals and so are you btw. You are also certain. You see scriptures tell us that no other revelations exist and that’s why I can prove it and you won’t accept that vk4.

 

And you can’t claim anything vk4, because you can be wrong about everything you claim to know because you don’t believe in absolutes.