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by Bob McKown on 20 October 2011 - 16:10
Written in the book transcribed by flawed men who in there opinions were inspired by God.

by gouda on 20 October 2011 - 17:10
So saith Bob..... The word of God is not written it is spoken by god himself. The bible is the interpitation by men who felt they were inspired by god. The original intent lost in translation or twisted to suit a personell message by the transcribers them self,s.
Spend less time trying to divide "them and us" by the written interpitation of flawed men. And search in your self for the answers that God has provided him self.
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So saith the word of God....God,who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the Fathers by Prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son,whom he hath appointed heir of all things,by whom also he made the worlds.
Thy throne oh God,is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the scepture of thy kingdom.
Which things also we speak,not in the words which mans wisdom teaches,but which the Holy Ghost teaches.
But the natural man receiveth,not the things of the Spirit of God:FOR THEY ARE FOOLISHNESS unto him:neither can he know them,because they are spiritually discerned.
THE WORDS OF JESUS;;;;;; And I shall pray the Father and He shall give you another Comforter,that He may abide with you forever; Even the Spirit of truth;whom the world cannot receive,because it seeth him not,neither knoweth Him: for he dwelleth with you,and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless:I will come to you.
Howbeit when he,the Spirit of truth,is come,he will guide you into all truth:for he shall not speak of himself;but whatsoever he shall hear,that he speak:and he will shew you things to come.
Bobby boy,I have the answer dwelling inside of me,THE HOLY SPIRIT,GOD HAS PROVIDED HIM FOR ME.
Have a nice day Bob
gouda
by Bob McKown on 20 October 2011 - 18:10
Gouda:
I,m glad you have your belief, but your trying to tell me I,m wrong or unclean using your own belief,s which is crazy because we don,t believe in the same thing neither is wrong. We just have different belief,s but you are trying to prove something by quoteing aswers from your belief which are just words written by flawed self serving men.
The difference is I think it,s great you have your belif,s I think it great I have mine but don,t keep throwing out your fodder trying to disprove mine...
Try talking with God instead of at him.
Bobby Boy

by gouda on 20 October 2011 - 18:10
I dont know your belief,so how could I be trying to disprove it Im here to preach what the bible teaches. You are the one trying to prove my belief is wrong.
Can you not give me an intelligent responce to my previous post.
I dont talk at God,God reveals truth to me through His Spirit.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT I SHOULD listen tou you instead?
gouda

by Two Moons on 20 October 2011 - 18:10
(My reply.....I have done away with my original thoughts the day I was born again.)
Yet you interpret ?
How does that work.

by Red Sable on 20 October 2011 - 18:10
http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/Is_There_Evidence_for_Jesus_Outside_the_Bible
One man is Suetonius.
Suetonius was a Roman historian and annalist of the Imperial House under the Emperor Hadrian. His writings about Christians describe their treatment under the Emperor Claudius (41-54AD):
"Because the Jews at Rome caused constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus (Christ), he (Claudius) expelled them from the city (Rome)." (Life of Claudius, 25:4)
This expulsion took place in 49AD, and in another work, Suetonius wrote about the fire which destroyed Rome in 64 A.D. under the reign of Nero. Nero blamed the Christians for this fire and he punished Christians severely as a result:
"Nero inflicted punishment on the Christians, a sect given to a new and mischievous religious belief." (Lives of the Caesars, 26.2)
There is much we can learn from Suetonius as it is related to the life of early Christians. From this very EARLY account, we know that Jesus had an immediate impact on his followers. They believed that Jesus was God enough to withstand the torment and punishment of the Roman Empire. Jesus had a curious and immediate impact on his followers, empowering them to die courageously for what they knew to be true
If you ever visit Israel, they have many landmarks where those mentioned in the Bible walked, including Jesus Christ.
Man has always had to walk by faith, so you can imagine in Jesus's day, when everyone waiting for the Messiah(as spoken of in the OT), discovered He was born to a carpenter, in a manger, not the powerful God they had envisioned at all. He came humbly and poor, why? maybe because the largest portion of the earth is poor, and because the rich have no need for a saviour? Regardless, the first time God came to earth He came to die, for us so that we may have life. The NEXT time He comes, He will come as the almighty God of great power and glory, the God that will do away with Evil, the God that they wanted to come, two thousand years ago.

by Two Moons on 20 October 2011 - 18:10
The first time?
Who died?

by Two Moons on 20 October 2011 - 19:10
But it is wrong to say anyone who has a different belief is condemned as a follower of Satan.
The arrogance of such thinking was and still is the seed of any persecution visited upon them who make such statements.
That is how this all came to be in the first place, in life and here on this thread.
Typical Christian doctrine,
If they cannot be converted, they must be conquered and converted by force for the sake of their immortal soul.
And to possess everything they own.
Do you believe in forgiveness?
Can you forgive a pedophile priest for destroying the lives of children, simply because he asks and claims repentance?
In the name of GOD.
Where is right and wrong, in the printed word, written by flawed men, or in your heart.
So, to the original post I say once more in essence, cast your first stone.
Right or wrong once it has left your hand it is no longer up to you what transpires.
Moons.
by Bob McKown on 20 October 2011 - 19:10
Gouda,Stahl:
None of us is wrong you believe what you feel is right as do I. The biggest difference is when you after living a long and wonderful life do come to pass you will go to the creator in your own belief,s way which is only proper. And when my demise is certin I will in mine the biggest difference will be when you find me God and a few friends will be skinny dippin in a nice lake having a good time as well.

by gouda on 20 October 2011 - 20:10
(My reply.....I have done away with my original thoughts the day I was born again.)
Yet you interpret ?
How does that work.
My reply
I dont determine my own personal opinions about God. I accept Gods Word as it is written and accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal saviour.
The answer is, GOD, before I was born....Christ has told me in the Bible:
Come,ye blessed of my Father {believers} inherit the Kingdom prepaired for you from the foundation of the world.
It took a decision on my part to believe on Him, I would no longer be condemned.
That truth can only be relayed to a person by the Holy Spirit.
So you see I do not interpret,I believe what God says. IF GOD SAYS ITS WRONG,ITS WRONG PERIOD.
gouda
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