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by Iveta321 on 15 April 2019 - 06:04

Dear friends, I am Czech and I have big problem. I bought a puppy from Italy and breeder import the puppy by plane. She left and later I found out I have not Export pedigree. Without Export pedigree I can´t registrate my puppy in Czech rep. ENCI can help mi without breeder reguest. I am nearly down and out cause breeder does´t communicate for month. I send mails to her every second day asking to fill out a simple form with the fact that I will handle everything else and pay for it. I have written many mail to ENCI but without any anter also. Can you pls give me an advice what to do??? Cause I have dog more than 6 month and I am not the owner. Thanks a lot for every advice. Iveta

by Iveta321 on 18 April 2019 - 15:04

Nobody knows? :-(

by hexe on 18 April 2019 - 21:04

Did you get ANY paperwork from the seller when you received the dog?

by Iveta321 on 19 April 2019 - 12:04

Hallo, thanks a lot. Yes, I have all documents /puppy´s pedigree, ENCI registration, purchace contract, mail corespondence, confirmation of payment for puppy.. etc/ but breeder didn´t request ENCI for Export Pedigree where I am registrated as a new owner. End ENCI told me that they need fill in application form "Reguest for Export Pedigree" from breeder with her identification and signature.The breeder doesn´t to do it. I have been asking her for it for months but no response.


by hexe on 21 April 2019 - 05:04

With all of the documentation you have, I'd push back on ENCI saying there's nothing they can--you've got everything but what the seller was supposed to give you to be able to register your dog, so in my opinion the ENCI should be contacting that seller and putting a hold on her being able to register any litters at all until she follows through with the export pedigree. There's no reason they can't contact her and make her fill out the paperwork needed for the export pedigree.

It might help to identify who the seller was, and see if anyone on here knows the woman and could speak to her directly on your behalf...another option would be to post about the seller in the Scam/Ripoff category of this forum--seeing their name in a thread title tends to rattle the cage of an uncooperative buyer or seller. Did you learn about this dog being for sale from an ad on this site?

by Iveta321 on 21 April 2019 - 06:04

Hallo, thanks a lot. I would sent everything to ENCI and pay for it (it is a little more than 25 Eur), but I am affraid I´m going to loos the original Pedigree and will have no document from my puppy. A lot of people advise me in any way not to send the original. So I don´t know....
Concerning breeder kennel, it is: Owner: Rowena Knights
Website: www.brigantekennel.com
Facebook: Brigantekennelnapoli
Email: rowenakni@gmail.com
Phone: +39 388 155 4865

And to your last sentence. No, I learn it from this site: https://bedlingtonterrier.dog/breeders-in-europe

Than you very much for your help.

by hexe on 23 April 2019 - 07:04

Absolutely DO NOT send any of the original paperwork to the ENCI--send notorized copies, but don't let the originals oUT of your possession. Your instincts on that are correct.

Start by sending the ENCI copies of all your paperwork, and of all your proof of contact with the seller (text messages, emails, Facebook or What's App messaging, etc.). Explain the chain of events from your first contact to the last time you were able to get a response from the seller, and be sure to include proof of payment for the dog. Insist that the registry organization step up and make the seller fulfill the obligations to complete the process that will permit you to register the dog in your name, both with the ENCI and your country's registry.

You'll clearly have to be pushy about this, since the seller is ghosting you (disappearing on you), or you'll find yourself stuck being unable to register the dog in your name...and that's just not fair.

by Iveta321 on 23 April 2019 - 09:04

Hallo, yes I do everything you advise I will send everything I have including photos to ENCI and I will even have the letter translated into Italian and write Urgent. Pls what do you mean "notorized" copie? Thanks a lot.

by hexe on 24 April 2019 - 06:04

I don't know what the equivalent would be in the Czech Republic, but in the USA we have individuals who become commissioned by our state governments as 'notary publics'. These 'notaries' are people authorized to perform certain legal functions as public officers, such as drawing up deeds or contracts, certifying [notorizing] copies of official and/or original documents, and serving as impartial witnesses to signatures on official documents.

Hopefully, the ENCI will press the breeder to follow through and authorize them to create and release the export pedigree to you so you can get your puppy registered!



Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 24 April 2019 - 13:04

Iveta,  in this respect the Czech legal system operates in much the same way as the American one as described by Hexe, apparently: Under Law number 358/1992 Coll.,'Public Notaries and their Functions Act'. Regulated by the professional body the Czech Notary Chamber. Possibly "nota" in Czech ?, a Public Notary is a private person entrusted with public office entailing activities such as drawing up of deeds & documents for land sales, verification and legalisation of documents.(which is the bit you need).

If its not obvious how to find one, and you know any lawyers, they should be able to point you to a Public Notary.  In lots of European countries, lawyers / solicitors are frequently Notories themselves (something worth knowing in case you end up needing one in Italy also). Hope it does not prove hugely expensive for you !  Good luck.


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