How can the WUSV allow this? - Page 1

I need an answer from someone more knowledgeable. I was under the impression that all competitors entering a WUSV event were judged by the same set of rules. It appears this is not the case. It appears there are WUSV sanctioned events that have two sets of rules. The part about this that I really don't understand is that when it's brought to their attention, they allow it.

Here's the situation. The President of the WDA announced there would be two shows connected to the WDA North American Sieger Show. The North American Sieger Show itself and as a separate event, the first of the new WUSV sieger shows. A show with the International recognition and support of the WUSV.

The entries for the combined shows opened 7/14/2013. The rules were revised two days before entries opened on 7/12/13 and published on the website. They can be found by following this link:
http://nasswda.org/downloads/Breed%20Show%20Rules%20Revised%207-12-13.pdf

In particular, Working Dog class for a VA rating; rule 1,g.Have a minimum SchH2 or HGH performance rating. (Dogs presenting for a second VA rating must have a SchH 3 or HGH title)

On 9/14/13, just as entries were closing, the President of the WDA announced new rules in a WDA member ONLY distribution. Here are the rules that were changed.

New Rules:
  NASS/WUSV Sieger Show Rules Update
1. The VA Class will be ranked; i.e. placements will be given to all VA-Rated Dogs.
2. Dogs considered for VA show ratings will not be required to present a progeny.
3. Dogs considered for VA show ratings must have a SchH2/IPO2 or HGH performance rating, regardless of whether the dog was previously awarded a VA show rating
4. The current NASS rues, as amended per above will apply to the WUSV Sieger Show.

Effectively the WDA members play by one set of rules while those participating from other clubs or countries play by the rules still posted on the website. Once the class was judged. It appears the revised rules were applied and a dog not qualified by the rules posted on the website received a high VA rating.

Shouldn't the WUSV have events where the same rules apply to all those that enter? The same group is hosting the WUSV World Championship. Are all the competitors being judged equally there?

Looks to me that there was some money involved, as somebody must always profit from any kind of change ..... no further comments as I do not have anything to prove and support my statement :)

Wait there is going to be ANOTHER Sieger show??  Didn't we just have one this weekend with less than 150 dogs?

VKGSDs

That was the show.

That explains why there was no interest in having it professionally videotaped.

Hope WUSV is different...  but I doubt it.


Sad.


 

It seems like the total number of participating dogs was around 170.

It is funny how one particular board member , the largest breeder on the East coast, continues to benefit at the WDA Sieger Shows with rule changes and rule interpretations.

I would like to have thought that the WDA membership was smart enough to see through these shenanigans and vote out the incumbent board members who continue to let this happen, but that failed too.  Vote counts in the low to mid 200's and they win the election.  Either the membership numbers have really dropped or the membership does not care.

Help me, I don´t get the point...
I understood ( and I don´t always understand well because of my language problems ) -
NASS became to " WUSV Siegershow " = one show, not two
The rules seem to have been  the same to all participants
The " rules update " is nothing new, they only wanted to make clear, that the VA Class will be ranked; i.e. placements will be given to all VA-Rated Dogs. ( different to us this year, this may be the reason why they wrote it down )
Dogs considered for VA show ratings will not be required to present a progeny ( understandable for me, in the States it´s difficult to present a progeny group )

What I really do NOT understand are the results in the working dog classes...
It´s really amazing that in the USA there are MORE VA dogs than V dogs...
This show must have been amazing !

Congrats to Wilhendorf - they seem to have not only superb dogs, but a lot of friends, too   ( look at the sponsors...)
 

There were 184 entries and 140 dogs actually competed in the ring.  There was 1 male and 6 females who did not pass the protection work.  Protection results have not been posted so we do not know who did not pass or who was pulled.

There were actually 2 dogs who benefited from the last minute rule change.  Both the VA2 male and VA2 female received a repeat VA rating without obtaining a SchH3 or IPO3 title.  Both of the dogs are owned by the same kennel.

I too would have hoped that the membership would have elected new officers.  The problem is in the last year many of the older knowledgeable members have left the organization and those knowledgeable members who are left do not have enough numbers to elect new Board members.  Many of the current WDA members are either new to the WDA or too new to the sport to understand the impact of these rule changes.  I have a feeling that a block of existing WDA members will not be renewing their memberships at the first of the year.

" There were actually 2 dogs who benefited from the last minute rule change.  Both the VA2 male and VA2 female received a repeat VA rating without obtaining a SchH3 or IPO3 title.  Both of the dogs are owned by the same kennel. "

Thank you, that´s something even I do understand...
 

SSDD Yet another example demonstrating that USCA is correct in prohibting its members from also being members of WDA. Those who wish to support the on-going corruption in WDA are free to do so. There is no sensible reason for USCA to take such taint into itself. JMHO