Drone Stikes on Americans legal, says Obama - Page 4

Bee,
you lost me at potus, just say Obama and leave off the alphabet.
I don't have a clue how to answer your post, it's nonsense, peers and modern war, thoughtful?

These turn coats, do you know their names?
Do you know what they're accused of, and is there evidence, or just hear say, intel.
Are they American citizens, and if this became standing policy could it be done on American soil?

What would you think if some of the victims of these drone strikes were not terrorists and not guilty of anything?
Say a sixteen year old boy targeted because of who his grandfather was.
What of collateral damage, homes, women and children?
Conditions that can only breed more terrorists.

Bee,
I'm not concerned that a terrorist was blown all to hell by a drone.
I'm concerned that if it becomes excepted policy for the executive to become judge, jury, and executioner, us citizen or not, then America stands for nothing and your rights and mine are no more.
Show me the clear and present danger.

Again, who is it we are at war with?
Thugs?

What was done cannot become US policy and that's what bothers me, it already is.

Cops here stormed a home taking out windows and doors using rams and flash bang grenades, full swat gear including machine guns while an old woman and her daughter set in the living room, terrified them, threw them down to the ground and bound them.
All because someone had used her computer to threaten the police on facebook or some shit.
He wasn't even there, so much for intel.
This is becoming standard policy without due process, unreasonable search and seizure, unnecessary use of force, terrorizing a poor woman and a child not to mention the physical and emotional harm that could have been deadly.
This is the America you want to live in?
Yes the woman has filed a law suit, but the damage is done and cannot be taken back, what if they had killed her or her daughter in all the excitement and smoke.

No Bee,
this is not what America is all about.

I need a link to that story, Joan... I do agree hearing it from you for the first time just sounds preposterous.


Moons,

Now, I know this is all upsetting to you. However, we have to find some acceptable rules to have a foward moving discussion. Not that we need to agree mind you, but we can't do the question with a question thing and expect answers.

Bee

Besides, Bee, the reality of this 'new ground', is that these people on the " list" are not given benefit of a trial, and it's a fact that some people (little kids, for example) are put on the list erroneously.
Also, this 'thoughtful approach intended to work in the best interest of the people who voted him into office', sounds like they are excluding the best interest of the country. Yes, it sounds to me like a bunch of thugs working in the 'best interest' of their supporters, kind of like Jim Jones doing what he thought was in the best interest of his supporters.

More rambling.

I find it so ... what is the word for this?   How bizarre, maybe? That begins it, that you are more prepared to call your own countries elected and sworn in President a thug, rather than a member of al Queda or the Taliban.

Bee,
you need to experience swatting,




Moons.

We created Al Qaeda, and the Taliban just wants to run their own country and not be subject to western ways.
I think America would react the same way to someone occupying our country and telling us how to live.
Of course we don't need terrorism, we have all that fire power instead.
We create terrorism.

And their "own ways"  include putting bullets in the heads of teen girls who want an education. Among other things. I think that is the epitomy of "thuggishnish" and has nothing to do with their "own ways".

It's not your call Bee.
Don't you understand that?
We do not own or control the world.

Stay focused here now Bee,
this is about drones used to kill Americans without due process and written policy becoming reality without the rule of law.